Re: Creationism is a falsified scientific theory


Mark Isaak wrote:
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 20:59:21 +0000, George Evans wrote:

in article pan.2006.08.17.16.43.39.47691@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Mark Isaak at
eciton_NOSPAM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 8/17/06 9:45 AM:

On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 23:20:35 -0500, *** C wrote:

RAM wrote in talk.origins

George Evans wrote:

You have misidentified the villain. It is fundamentalism. Creationism is
still viable. It is not "unsupported by science". It is in second place.

Provide some evidence of this "scientific support." And what exactly do you
mean by second place.

I didn't know scientific theories were in a queue.

If they were, creationism wouldn't be second, it would be dead last, and
would have to back up everytime another scientific theory was presented.

No, creationism would not be in the queue at all. It was once, about 200
years ago, and it reached the head of the queue, and it got rejected on
account of being wrong. (Which brings us back to the Subject of this thread.)

The closest thing I have seen to a falsification in this group is the idea
that creation would predict a very sharp boundary in the geological record
representing the moment of creation--the reverse of an extinction. And, of
course non is found, so that seems conclusive. The problem is that under
"peer review" it was shown that the possibility of a world wide flood brings
the data into question because such an event could have changed geology.
Therefore the "experiment" is not conclusive.

Biblical creationism made at least two definite predictions -- that the
earth is less than 7000 years old, and that there was a global flood after
humans came on the scene. Both are now spectacularly falsified.
Creationism also predicts stasis of a sort, that that animals we see today
have existed as long as there were animals. That too is spectacularly
false.


I would not call those predictions. Predictions are saying what will
happen in the future not the past. Those would be postdictions or
retrodictions. A 7000 year old earth is not falsified. Think Omphalos
hypothesis. Very little is ever falsified. The problem with
creationism is that it does not make predictions (say what will be
observed on the future).

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