Wayne recognizes new trend in Pagano posting style

Bill Wayne wrote:

T Pagano wrote:

On 16 Aug 2006 09:34:45 -0700, "Giant Sloth"
<nospammers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Creationists are highly critical of the Lawrence M Krause op-ed in the
August 15 NY Times, in particular the following statement:

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"To maintain a belief in a 6,000-year-old earth requires a
denial of essentially all the results of modern physics, chemistry,
astronomy, biology and geology.

This claim implies that proof of a 4 billion year old earth is
reducible to modern physics, chemistry, astronomy, biology and
geology. Unfortunately this ain't so. Dating the earth or anything
else older than recorded history requires some absolute clock.
Unfortunately none of the sciences offered provide any such thing.



It is to imply that airplanes and
automobiles work by divine magic, rather than by empirically testable
laws."

Here the NY Times author fails to draw a distinction between
experimentally reproducible events and the recontruction of unique
historical events outside of the direct competence of science.
Airplanes and automobile engineers exploit laws of nature which are
observable and reproducible. Dating methodologies are a horse of a
different color.


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I can see that in order to believe YECism you have throw out much of
biology, geology, astronomy, nuclear physics. But ALL the results of
these disciplines?

Problem is that even if Krause was more modest with his hot air he
wouldn't be able to list a single piece of unquestioned background
knowledge in these disciplines thrown out by a single creationist. In
dating methodologies the issue is not the physics or the geochemistry
involved, but the presumptions being made about the history of
geo-samples which are outside the direct reach of empirical science.


Airplanes and automobiles must work by divine
magic? Did Krause get carried away?

As is typical when a group is villified the details are few and the
nonsense runs rampant.


I'm not going to discuss the points you raised in this post, but
congratulations on not changing the title thread!


Nice of you to pay Tony a compliment.





Regards,
T Pagano


Bill



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The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due to the absence from Jerusalem of a lunatic asylum.

Thomas Paine

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