Re: Is a fact something that has been proven?

Tracy P. Hamilton wrote:
ave1 wrote:
Well, what do ya know-- here's some good evidence that we are going to
see an electron quantum eraser experiment, and that it has a very close
correlation to the double slit experiments:
http://www.arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0607031

Steve
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Did mind come before matter in the universe or matter come before mind?
Chapters 1 and 2 have your answer:
http://www.bottomlayer.com/bottom/reality/Intro.html

You know nothing about QM, <snip>

My response to Mr. Kahana reveals that he's made some rather big errors
in his analysis. There is strong evidence that quantum experiments
have convinced experts that concious decisions we make influence
light/matter. This is all detailed in the website in my sig.

. . . The electron quantum eraser experiment is a two electron entanglement
experiment, the double slit is a one electron at a time (i.e. not
entangled).

The reason they entangled the photons and electrons is to see if "which
path" information will work in a certain way-- Apart from the detecting
equipment. The fact of the matter is that concious decisions we make
seem to affect the propagation of matter/energy. The Kim paper I cited
a couple messages back actually mentioned that this was correlated to
the double slit experiments.

At least it is more similar than what you previously
claimed, where it was two entangled photons being similar to one
electron!

See my comments to Kahana regarding the measurement effect and boson
and fermion particles behaving as classic or elementary particles at
anything other than really high densities. (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosons )

The paper explicitly includes the detector in the analysis (which means
the detector has the effect, not "intelligence". The detector is
itself a two-state quantum system. My mind can exist in more than two
states.

Tracy P. Hamilton

The detector doesn't have the effect to ultimately alter the way
photons or electrons or matter in any form. See my discussion of the
Mermin paper which has some very interesting content about "the
measurement problem" and the "puzzle of conscious awareness". I have
also managed to come upon another article, but have yet to read it
through completely in order to provide further discussion on it:
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1:15447461/Quantum+consciousness%7eR%7e+(physicist+Roger+Penroses+theory+of+consciousness+based+on+non-computable+quantum-mechanic%7eR%7e%7eR%7e%7eR%7e.html?refid=ency_botnm


This sounds very interesting.

To say we have this all figured out (and that it all boils down to
detectors altering the propagation of photons or matter/energy) is to
not know much about quantum mechanics. Are you really sure you want to
say that Mermin is wrong about there being a puzzle of conscious
awareness?

Steve
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Did mind come before matter in the universe or matter come before mind?

Chapters 1 and 2 have your answer:
http://www.bottomlayer.com/bottom/reality/Intro.html

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