Re: general relativity is useless



Bill Wayne wrote:
Nashton wrote:
Bill Wayne wrote:
snex wrote:
has general relativity ever saved a life? no! therefore it is clearly
false.
Yeah! And non-Euclidian Geometry,
"non-Euclidean Geometry is any geometry that is different from Euclidean
Geometry. One of the most useful non-Euclidean geometries is Spherical
Geometry which describes the surface of a sphere. Spherical Geometry is
used by pilots and ship captains as they navigate around the world.
Working in Spherical Geometry has some non intuitive results."

http://www.cs.unm.edu/~joel/NonEuclid/noneuclidean.html

I'll concede the point about Spherical Geometry. However, I was
referring to purely theoretical constructs, like Poincaré disc models
and Hyperbolic Geometry. Sure, we've calculated Mercury's orbit with
it, but how does that help humanity? ;)

Navigating around the world is a start, don't you think?


Heisenburg's Uncertainty Principle,

It's Heisenberg, btw. And you must be joking. Do you have any idea how
useful this principle is in solving problems?

Yes, but only with subatomic particles.

So it's Heisenburg when it's not subatomic and Heisenb*e*rg when it is?


Which, as I've mentioned
before, haven't saved any lives. Therefore, it's useless and no longer
a theory.

It's useful in QM. QM is all around you, from MBs in comps, to MBs in life support systems.


Schrodinger's cat
You mean Shrodinger's equations, don't you? Cats are usually very
useless creatures. I never had any use for them.


Silence noted.



, and all of philosophy don't exist either.

Philosophy is extremely useful to mankind. Ethical debates, *the way we
think of ourselves and the universe*, whole political systems have been
based on philosophical principals.

Evolution also helps mold our view of the universe.

Yes, it helps the liberal/atheists mold everybody's godless view of the "universe."


Nashton, you are a genius.
I didn't think that making flavors for the food industry was so
important to you.

My apologies.

Not particularly, but knowledge is. Should knowledge not be persued
even if (assuming you *are* right in the first place) there's no
practical application at this moment?

Under the same reasoning, we would never have delved into quantum
mechanics. We wouldn't have looked outward and studied space. We would
never have learnt

Learnt?

what a wonderous thing the sun, and all stars, are.
Hell, we wouldn't have known about anything smaller than the eye can
see. Why learn about atoms if we can only harness them a century later?
And why would Anton van Leeuwenhoek have studied creatures with his
microscope?

Because he was looking into ways to save lives? Just like Pasteur, perhaps?


We persued knowledge for the sake of knowledge. Therefore, millions of
lives have been saved from antibiotics

Please explain how macroevolution was in any way helpful in developing antibiotics. Just repeating the same ol' tired mantra doesn't make it any more valid.

and proper surgical techniques.

Wha?


Bill



--
Nicolas

Bill




--
Nicolas


"And, heaving alljawbreakical expressions out of Sare Isaac's universal of specious aristmystic unsaid, A is for Anna like L is for liv."
Finnegans Wake (293)

".... It means that all living things are the product of mindless material forces such as chemical laws, natural selection, and random variation. So God is totally out of the picture, and humans (like everything else) are the accidental product of a purposeless universe. Do you wonder why a lot of people suspect that these claims go far beyond the available evidence?" Phillip E.Johnson, The Church Of Darwin

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