Re: topmind: ID is potentially testable


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Horse wash. It predicts that detectable artifacts may be left over from
the engineering.


Detectable? But you keep forgetting to tell us how to detect them. You
have
put forth no specific empirical consequences.

Alas! You had once been specific. You said to test for a conventional
bitmap
of the Mona Lisa. I showed that prior searches would almost certainly
have
discovered any such a pattern. Your contention was found false that no
one
has used search methodology likely to have found such patterns.


If it has, then you would have presented the situation or paper, now
wouldn't you? If X happened, then show evidence that X actually
happened. Your "must have" stance is just playing lame.


Finding Mona is just such a test - done at your own insistence. I published
the results and made the code available for public inspection. It's written
in VBasic so it is easy to understand. There is no conventional image of a
Mona Lisa hidden in the genome examined.

Come on, now. You offered no evidence that past researchers have
actually followed up on any statistical outliers. Nor did you analyse
that bright spot in the middle to see if it had some other image, pi,
primes, or languages.

As far as one critter being "done", that is like SETI looking at one
star in one frequency range, not finding anything and then concluding
that SETI is "done".

You people are silly. You are a hard-ass on DNA-ID, but super-softies
on SETI. This is called a "double standard". Read about it.



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Zachriel

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