Re: free anti-ID e-book available




Mike wrote:
'Rev Dr' Lenny Flank wrote:

A condensed version of my 'Creation "Science" Debunked' website is now
available as a free e-book in PDF format, titled "Deception by Design;
The Intelligent Design Movement in America", at:


Frankly I don't see why "evolutionists" (of which I am strongly a
member) should have such a problem with ID, other than the
creationists' attempts to have it taught as "an alternative science".

ID otherwise meshes rather well with evolution, if you choose to
believe it, and the pro-evolution camp should (IMHO) not try so hard to
"debunk" it because of the risk of associating Evolution with Atheism
(something that creationists already do). If we allow that to become
the "official stance", then there will NEVER be any converts, because
it would require them to give up their faith.


You, uh, miss the entire point.

The ID fight isn't about science. It isn't about religion, either.
It's about political power -- who gets it, and what they get to do with
it once they have it. ID is the "wedge" for an openly theocratic
political program, one that would be the death of democracy. The
fundies are ayatollah-wanna-be's. Nothing more, nothing less, nothing
else.

My best friend is from Iran, and has seen firsthand what happens when a
bunch of theocratic nuts are allowed to gain real political power. I
have no intention at all of allowing that to happen here.



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"There are no loose threads in the web of life"


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