Re: The Bible's Poetry & Spirituality's Value

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Biblical literalists miss the point of the Bible. They miss that it's more like poetry than history or science, and, like poetry, its value lies in its ability to evoke meaning beyond the literal meaning of its words, concepts beyond their usual reach, between the lines.



You mean like meaning that G_d created Man?


Exactly like that. What you think the Bible means when it says that. The Bible's universality, its ability to apply to a changing, evolving universe, is rooted in its interpretive nature. Its value to you is rooted in your ability to interpret it appropriately in a world we're still discovering. All the great spiritual books are like that. Haven't you noticed?


The Bible does not apply to a changing universe of values, only in the mind of liberal kooks that try to fashion their lifestyle to how *they* interpret the scriptures.

The truth of the matter is that the world we're discovering, seems to fade into spirituality and idealism and less and less into what naturalists would like it to evolve into, materialism.

In other words, you understand it less and less. We already knew that.

CT


You know very little, but are a master at hand waving.

Here are a few examples of how philosophy and physics are interdependent and in general, the state of the field (no pun intended) at this point in time. This can be construed as esoterica by many and are very reminiscent of the idealism vs materialism debates of a not so distant past. Only this time, they're accompanied by gauge and/or symmetry transformations.
This is the era of Decoherence, many worlds interpretations and asymmetry of time *all* tied in to appearances and ontology.

From: http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/teaching/philphys/index.html


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First Problem. When do intertransformable mathematical structures represent the same physical ontology?
(Esp. philosophy of space and time.)

Second Problem. What do the mathematical structures of a successful theory represent in the physical ontology?
(Esp. philosophy of quantum theory)

Third Problem. How do we reconcile a physical ontology with seemingly incompatible appearances?
(Esp. philosophy of statistical physics)

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Nicolas


"And, heaving alljawbreakical expressions out of Sare Isaac's universal of specious aristmystic unsaid, A is for Anna like L is for liv."
Finnegans Wake (293)

".... It means that all living things are the product of mindless material forces such as chemical laws, natural selection, and random variation. So God is totally out of the picture, and humans (like everything else) are the accidental product of a purposeless universe. Do you wonder why a lot of people suspect that these claims go far beyond the available evidence?" Phillip E.Johnson, The Church Of Darwin

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  • Re: The Bibles Poetry & Spiritualitys Value
    ... value lies in its ability to evoke meaning beyond the literal meaning ... The Bible's universality, its ability to apply to a changing, evolving ... The Bible does not apply to a changing universe of values, ... none of the great spiritual books mention scoring. ...
    (talk.origins)
  • Re: The Bibles Poetry & Spiritualitys Value
    ... value lies in its ability to evoke meaning beyond the literal meaning ... The Bible's universality, its ability to apply to a changing, evolving ... The Bible does not apply to a changing universe of values, ... none of the great spiritual books mention scoring. ...
    (talk.origins)
  • Re: The Bibles Poetry & Spiritualitys Value
    ... value lies in its ability to evoke meaning beyond the literal meaning ... The Bible's universality, its ability to apply to a changing, evolving ... The Bible does not apply to a changing universe of values, ... none of the great spiritual books mention scoring. ...
    (talk.origins)
  • Re: The Bibles Poetry & Spiritualitys Value
    ... value lies in its ability to evoke meaning beyond the literal meaning ... The Bible's universality, its ability to apply to a changing, evolving ... The Bible does not apply to a changing universe of values, ... none of the great spiritual books mention scoring. ...
    (talk.origins)
  • Re: The Bibles Poetry & Spiritualitys Value
    ... it's more like poetry than history or science, and, like poetry, its value lies in its ability to evoke meaning beyond the literal meaning of its words, concepts beyond their usual reach, between the lines. ... The Bible's universality, its ability to apply to a changing, evolving universe, is rooted in its interpretive nature. ... The Bible does not apply to a changing universe of values, only in the mind of liberal kooks that try to fashion their lifestyle to how *they* interpret the scriptures. ...
    (talk.origins)