Re: The Santana Formation - Rapid or Slow Burial?

Seanpit <seanpitnospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

June wrote:

This is untrue, Sean. No one denies personal bias. The huge advantage of
the scientific method/science (as practiced) is that they reduce the
effects of personal bias by comparing 'opinions/bias' to reality in a
manner that can be checked by everyone and anyone. This leads to
consensus/scientific theories about how reality works. The things you
are told here by Richard, John, et al are NOT personal opinions, they
are objective scientific facts/theories developed over several hundred
years by many thousands of people subjecting their own and others'
hypotheses/discoveries to the rigors of scientific inquiry.

So, as long as you're with the majority you're safe from the demon?

That isn't what I said here or in the part you snipped, Sean.

I basically got run out of my church when I was a pre-teen because I
wouldn't follow the 'sheep' about the literal interpretation of the
Bible. You see there were these things called libraries with these other
things called books in them that I had read and i wouldn't quit asking
questions...

So...I'd much rather align myself with scientific theories & reality
than the UFOlogists, astrologers, moon-landing deniers, Holocast
deniers, climate change deniers, creationists, etc.



< snip rest; sheep mentality >

Let's restore the 'sheep mentality' for a moment:

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Sean said:
You think the demon only applies to those who disagree
with you.

June said:
Again, untrue. When it comes to my personal opinions, I'm as subject to
the demon as anyone. I try not to be, but it is always a
danger...always. How does one defend against it, though? Not by staring
at your own navel or cherry-picking facts & coming up with a fantasy
scenario to fit personal prejudices.

If I put up a website claiming that HIV was not caused by a virus &
spread by exposure to contaminated blood, but by evil thoughts and their
spread, therefore no one should bother with condoms, safe sex practices,
sterile needles, monitoring the blood banks, etc., should my 'bias' be
given the same weight & importance as the medical & scientific
communities' 'bias'?

Guess what you've done, Sean?
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So, uhm Sean. Are you one of the non-sheep who believe that HIV is *not*
caused by the virus? Do your patients know that you think those who
follow the majority in medical science are sheep? What other medical
science practices do you ignore because of personal religious beliefs as
you do to geology, physics, biology, astronomy, et al

Some more restoration:
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Sean said:
Don't you realize that you and Glenn Morton are just as
subject to the demon as is anyone else? All the stuff that Glenn
describes as applying to YECs also apply to evolutionists. We are all
biased and it's good to at least admit that upfront.

June said:
As individuals, yes...to a greater or lesser extent. But a medical
doctor will tend to act less on personal bias about medicine than on the
consensus and facts of medical science because said doctor has studied
the facts and theories of medical science. That same doctor's personal
opinions on geology are much more subject to the demon.

Guess what you've done, Sean?
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[snip sigs]

Again, Sean, do you think that doctors who comply with the discoveries
of medical science are (presumably mindless) sheep?

--
My 2¢ ß-}

June

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