Re: Creationist theory

nando_ronteltap@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
SRNissen wrote:
nando_ronteltap@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
Everything exists of quanta sonny. You can't posit quantum
indeterminacy and then suppose that this indeterminacy doesn't affect
the world because quanta are small. There is no logical progression in
your argument.
Of course I can. Allow me to represent an analogy for you. If I am told
to roll a die and call my number, I will get somewhere between 1 and 6.
If I am to roll two dice and call the highest number, I will also get
somewhere between 1 and 6, but the odds are no longer equivalent. There
is a 1/36 chance that I get a 1, and a 11/36 chance that I get a 6. The
more dice I roll, the less chance that I get a 1, and the higher the
chance that I get a 6. Likewise, while a single electron may be wildly
unpredictable, on average, they pretty much do as we expect. If I put an
electric potential over a piece of copper wire, electrons will run
through the wire. Sure, some of them may decide to do some funny quantum
movement and take a trip to Mars, but on average, I'll have power
running through the wire. Statistics covers this very nicely.

Yes statistics predicts normal variaton in emergent properties based on
quantum indeterminacy.

regards,
Mohammad Nur Syamsu


Man, if that's all you're talking about, all you're referring to, why do you keep saying that evolution denies this? Evolution _depends_ on quantum effects - it's the only thing that keeps our bodies together, and you can't have mutation without quantum. The ToE doesn't reject QM at all.

- SRNissen
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