Re: Why we haven't met any aliens -- article from Seed Magazine




UC wrote:
AC wrote:
On 25 May 2006 07:51:31 -0700,
UC <uraniumcommittee@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Kermit wrote:
UC wrote:
john.19071969@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
A thought provoking article

http://www.seedmagazine.com/news/2006/05/why_we_havent_met_any_aliens.php

-John

There are no aliens. It's that simple.

Possibly. But in that case, why not?

See my thread 'SETI'.

I don't recall anything you posted there that didn't amount to an argument from
incredulity.

Not at all. I simply point out how very difficult it would be to
duplicate Earth, which is essentially what we would have to have for
there to be other intelligent races. It is not 'incredulity' at all.
How many 'Earths' could there be? Not very many. I say: one.

Really? I just yesterday read an estimate that there are 30,000 planets
within 10 parsecs of Earth.

What do you mean by other Earths? Rocky planets in a stable orbit with
a temperature range that regularly produces water? Seems to me that
it's reasonable that quite a few of those 30,000 planets have water,
light, and complex chemicals.

If abiogensis was the result of natural processes, I don't know of any
reason to assume that the right conditions are extraordinarily rare. I
would think millions of Earth-like planets in our galaxy alone.

Intelligence is a quality of life that would develop in time, given a
complex ecosystem. Look at the species that are tool using now, in the
wild: orangutans, chimps, and gorillas. Who else is close?
Cephalopods, bonobos, baboons, elephants, maybe racoons, parrots.
Cetaceans are smart but it's true they won't be building any spaceships
anytime soon...

Maybe the answer to Fermi's paradox *is: there ain't nobody else.
But I think the next question ("Why not?") is a big one. Seems like the
universe should be crawling with life.


If we don't accept such reasoning from Creationists, can you
think of a reason why we should accept it from you?

--
Aaron Clausen
mightymartianca@xxxxxxxxx

Kermit

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