Re: A few questions from an Anthro student


NashtOn wrote:
Janie wrote:
As an anthropology student I get very annoyed at people picking at me
beliefs, I certainly don't go around telling other people there what
they should or shouldn't believe.

Poor fellow!

I got sucked into this debate
thing some time ago because of flame mail by some psycho that told me I
was going to go to hell for believing in science.

You mean to say, evolution. You see, evolution is not science, just a
historical account according to naturalists, of how living things morph
and adapt through time.


My only fear is that by taking away evolution from high school
education we may be stifling our own economy and may fall behind the
rest of the world in terms of technological development.

Aw yes, so much in our society hinges on the theory of evolution. Our
whole industrial-military complex, the transmission of power, medicine
and anything imaginable is derived from Darwin.
In fact, without Darwin, we would never have had the technology to
travel to the moon.

And so I want
to point to an article that I thought some of you might find
interesting.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/12/opinion/12Thorpe.html?ex=1148529600&en=a69700c711d39161&ei=5070

I don't find it interesting.

On a side note I do have a question (or many) about how creationists
think (best way I can put it). If the Australopithecines weren't
bipeds how did they get around?

You're correct. Very few animals use all fours for locomotion.
It's an outrage!

I've tried doing that knuckle walking
stance and even if my arms were longer, its still uncomfortable to
crane your neck in order to be looking forward. Surely someone has
explained this to them?

Somebody should explain this to most of the primates. They should be
engineered genetically to walk on their hind legs since they can't look
forward.

And what about things like the Australian
rabbits and myxoma. If it wasn't evolution in action then how do they
explain it? What about sickle cell anemia and malaria. If evolution
isn't the answer then how else do they explain such phenomena?

You will find that most people don't have a hard time with adaptations,
but don't agree with macroevolutive changes.


All I know is that the world is laughing at us.

Those crazy Europeans are drunk most of the time so, who cares?

I came to London (UCL)
to study physical anthro here and so many British kids ask me how an
American can study evolution, since we all don't believe in it. I'm so
amazed at how a minority is capable of embarrassing an entire nation.

Anthropology the science of the study of its own assumptions. Why not
study locally, in NA? Couldn't get accepted in an American University?




--
Nicolas

"The reason the theory of evolution is so controversial is that it is
the main scientific prop for scientific naturalism. Students first learn
that "evolution is a fact," and then they gradually learn more and more
about what that "fact" means. It means that all living things are the
product of mindless material forces such as chemical laws, natural
selection, and random variation. So God is totally out of the picture,
and humans (like everything else) are the accidental product of a
purposeless universe. Do you wonder why a lot of people suspect that
these claims go far beyond the available evidence?" Phillip E.Johnson,
The Church Of Darwin

It is taught that the Earth orbits the Sun as a fact without any
indication of how Copernicus arrived at that reasoning.When the actual
reasoning is acknowleded and verified it can be seen that the 'fact'
was arrived at through another means by the empiricists who never
bothered to take the original reasoning into account.

Newton broke several astronomical principles to arrive at his
'empirical ' conclusions for heliocentrcity and so it is in his
followers.The bogus structures and premises generate abnormal physical
characteristics most notably the inability to give the correct value
for the rotation of the Earth on its axis.

Newtonian empiricism is a testament to Kepler's warning about arriving
at conclusions through forcing facts to suit the ends,that Newton
eventually shades off into fraudulent misuse of Keplerian reasoning
makes his agenda even more irrelevent.

"And though some disparate astronomical hypotheses may provide exactly
the same results in astronomy, as Rothmann claimed in his letters to
Lord Tycho of his own mutation of the Copernican system,nevertheless
there is often a difference between the conclusions because of some
physical consideration [causa alicujus considerationis physicae]....
But practitioners are not always in the habit of taking account of that

diversity in physical matters [in physicisvarietas], . . " KEPLER

The vast network of empirical tentacles appropriates the highly
intuitive disciplines of astronomy and geology into the 'scientific
method' umbrella and the world is worse for the dominance of that
cult.

The loss of some much careful work and the rich and productive avenues
to which it tends is the only consequence of this miserable situation
where they attack the simple faith of people even as they have
completely subjugated humanity to a non intuitive version of terrestial
and celestial phenomena.

The working principles for Christianity is love,the working principles
for investigation of natural phenomena is a healthy curiousity allied
with intuitive and intellectual instincts,.Not evidence,not proof but
the sheer joy of creation in motion exists at the heart of faith and
knowledge yet held in check by the intuitive instincts which affirm
or reject undisciplined and unbridled speculative approaches.A person
who has an intuitive feeling for Christianity and the life of Christ
will simply extend it to creation which encompasses our existence and
consider the great astronomical cycles which make existence possible.

.

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