Re: "Racial" medicine


r norman wrote:

Of course I am politically motivated, a fact that I have never tried
to conceal. I also separate the facts of science from the way that
those facts are interpreted or possibly abused by others. Do you
think that scientists have no responsibility for the way others use or
abuse their results? Have you not learned anything from the very
sorry spectacle of eugenics morphing into genocide? from the role that
physicists played in the development of nuclear weapons, especially
fusion bombs? from the attempt to turn theories of inheritance of
intelligence into educational policy?

A better understanding of human intelligence, including its inheritance
may allow us to create more effective educational policies.

It is no longer acceptable for
science to plow blindly ahead with ideas and ignore the consequences.

Very obvious appeal to consequences.
It is a fallacy.

That is exactly the reason why I introduced this thread -- to try to
educate people (or at least get people thinking) about two distinct
notions: first the fact about the inability to divide humanity into
what are traditionally called "races",

Ok

second the fact that the abuse
of such racial notions has caused such an enormous evil in the world
in the past that we must be conscious of any attempt to recreate it
and actively work to counteract it. The first is science, the second
is our responsibility as decent human beings (and ethical scientists).

Many people abused the notions of Relativity and Quantum Mechanics. Do
this mean that they are false?

You, and most of the people replying on the reality of "race", see an
"obviously black" person on the street and another "obviously white"
person and say that race is clearly defined. What you do not see are
the millions of people that are neither black nor white nor yellow
but something else. That, plus the fact already pointed out, that
skin color is not a good marker for many other genetic characters, is
much of the reason why your notion of race is scientifically invalid.

Now I question you: what possibly political, possibly social reason
do you carry around inside your head to cause you to believe so
strongly in racial separations?

The question wasn't if races should be separed, it was if races do
exist.

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