Re: Atheists are the biggest fools on Earth




Cheezits wrote:
AC <mightymartianca@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Jim Spaza <spaza9@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
AC wrote:
Jim Spaza <spaza9@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
[etc.]
What are the odds that we see gravity having the present value or
anything near it? Well, if you look at the potential range of
values from infinite repulsion through zero gravity to infinite
attraction, I'd say the odds are infinitestimally small.

You haven't shown your work, and we're right back to the fine-tuning
argument, which I thought had been dealt a death blow because God's
still omnipotent.

OK. If you want a little math and some other info, then here's a
start...

http://www.geocities.com/worldview_3/mathprfcosmos.html
http://www.origins.org/articles/bradley_justsouniverse.html
http://www.reasons.org/resources/apologetics/design_evidences/200406
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ine_tuning_for_life_on_earth.shtml

How can you make a statistical analysis with only one entity? Be
specifc, Jim.

According to the first link posted, the chance of gravity being what it
is about 1 in 1000. (Note that it doesn't say how they arrived at that
number either.) That's rather not quite the same as "infinitesimally
small", is it? :-D

Did you read that post or just skim over it? I said that even if
gravity could only have 1,000 different values then the chance that
this universe is the way it is...is 0.1%. I did it just to make the
math easy. Now, we know that there is no known restriction on gravity.
Thus, we can theorize that gravity MIGHT be able to have been any
amount from zero to near-infinity.


Even when he shows his (really someone else's) work, it still doesn't
show what he claims.

[etc.]
But neither is just pulling numbers out of your head and prancing
arguments from incredulity constitute a statistical analysis. Do
you have one or not?

Yep. I pasted some links above. These are just a few that are out
there on the internet.

And all are simply arguments from incredulity masked in math.

They can be summed up as saying "Isn't it amazing that we *just
happened* to evolve in a universe where the conditions are just right!"
Mathematically they prove nothing, as usual.

Sue
--
Full bibliographic references to the peer-reviewed
scientific literature, please. - Herb Huston

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