Re: ID with intellectual integrity




Ron O wrote:
SRNissen wrote:
I'm trying to do a logical analysis of the ID arguement, and trying to
see how far you can take it and still maintain a sense of integrity.
This means no arguements from ignorance or other fallacies, remembering
to call the intelligent designer "God" like you're obviously supposed
to and other stuff like that.

Unsurprisingly, it's tough going. After putting the A Priori
assumptions down, I've only got something like half a page worth of
text, and half of that is about what I'm not trying to do, rather than
what I'm trying to do.

Has somebody else already tried this? It would save me quite a bit of
time if somebody could re-post or link an analysis like this for me -
I'm mostly doing this for my own amusement, but if it turns out that
something like this has been posted to this NG five times within the
last year, I don't really feel like bothering to do it again.

- SRNissen

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Everyone at the Discovery Institute has probably tried this exercise,
that is why they have a new scam called teach the controversy. West
claims that the big wigs at the Discovery Institute came to your
conclusion back in 1999, but they just forgot to inform their
supporters that they were dumping ID for the old creationist
obfuscation scam. When the scam artists that perpetrated the ID scam
think that a stupid obfuscation scam is more likely to succeed than ID,
what should the rubes that were scammed by ID think?

Ron Okimoto

Indeed.

My task is not, I might add, made any easier by the fact that none of
the ID proponents have actually been willing to give a working
definition of ID.

I mean, I can extrapolate. They probably meant to say that ID was about
"God occasionally meddles with evolution, and we can detect this," but
they never actually did, right?

Or have they given a definition somewhere that I simply missed?

- SRNissen

FABRICATE DIEM, PVNC

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