Re: Bacterial Evolution Question


Seanpit wrote:


Hmmmm, I'm having difficulty seeing the logic of putting insect wings
on a bird or bird wings with feathers on a bat. It seems much more
brilliant to me to create different creatures within each subcategory
with a similar spectrum of abilities with in each category, like
swimming, flying, living in water, living on land, etc. Depending upon
the subcategory of creature, the such problems and environments would
be "solved" a bit differently and end up having a nested pattern. This
seems quite brilliant and extremely creative to me. A very orderly
logical creation.

In any case, the discovery of hierarchies does not support the notion
of evolution from a common ancestor over the notion of deliberate
design from a common designer. Hierarchies are consistent with both
possibilities.

Okay. Fine.

Now, if we found that living organisms did not form a nested hierarchy,
please explain how that would be incompatible with design.

If we found birds with bat's wings, how would that be incompatible with
design?

If we find systems which are apparently badly designed, how would that
be incompatible with design?

Your favourite analogy is your perfect granite cube. You state that we
would know it was designed because of it's regularity. In other words,
it is a simple obejct (and incidentally sharing that character with the
signals SETI is looking for). Yet you say that design is organisms is
evidenced by their complexity.

So are both simplicity and complexity evidence for design? How about
something in between? If we find something which is rather simple, or
not very complex, would that be evidence against design?

If pink and blue unicorns appeared in Trafalgar Square dancing the
Bossa Nova, that would be compatible with "design". If a dog gave birth
to a sugar lump, that would be compatible with "design".

Please give us a single possible observation or measurement which would
not be compatible with design. Anything at all.

If you can't (and I can see no possiblity of any such observation or
measurement), please explain to us the value of an assertion which can
"explain" absolutely anything.

RF

Just because you don't think you would create that way
doesn't mean it isn't quite reasonable to do so. The only way to
really judge between these possibilities is to look at the mechanism.
Do the evolutionary mechanisms have what it takes to create the
functional systems in question? Despite all of your hand waving and
smoke blowing to the contrary, the clear answer to this question is no
- not even close. Vision systems couldn't even evolve one time in
trillions of years, much less 40 times in less than a billion years.
How anyone could actually swallow such a bald assertion, based simply
on hierarchies when the mechanism is completely inadequate, is beyond
me.

< snip >

Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com

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