Re: proton to electron mass ratio may have changed




Fooj wrote:
Richard Forrest wrote:
Fooj wrote:
Robert J. Kolker wrote:
Fooj wrote:


I find it generally ironic that Biologists who are way more competent
than Darwin defending Darwin's stupidity. What is there to envy?
Biological discoveries are made in spite of Darwin's theory. Biology is
science, not evolution.

Natural selection is perfectly congruent with genetics and molecular
biology. Darwin launched biology on the correct course. His work was
only version 1.0 of a cluster of sciences that has development
brilliantly. The theory of evolution in its modern state (genetics and
molecular biology) is health and productive.

Darwin didn't launch biology.

He didn't claim that it did.
The claim where we wouldn't have it without him is bogus. Glad that you
agree.

It has always existed as part of medical
science.

No it hasn't. It developed as a science largely independently of
medical science on the basis of observation.
Which is merely your opinion without supporting fact.

It's informed opinion, and one shared by most biologists.
Read all about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_biology


Secondly, molecular biology (assuming that biologists know
what a molecule is) has nothing to do with natural selection. That is
why molecular biology cannot understand the concept of a virus.

In which case why do molecular biologists write papers on(corrected) viruses?
They usually write stupid ones as you will later demonstrate in your
post.

What an inspiring answer!
Perhaps you can tell us why this paper is stupid?
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=237226&tools=bot

Or this one:
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v332/n6161/abs/332272a0.html

Or this one:
http://vir.sgmjournals.org/cgi/reprint/79/5/961.pdf

I can provide many more.


A virus
is the product of broken down cell DNA/RNA not reprogrammed cell
DNA/RNA.

And where did you get this little gem from? A virus replicates by
inserting it's own DNA into the nucleus of the cell of another living
organism and making it produce copies of itself.

In what way is this not "reprogramming"?

First, cells aren't computers, and "microphages" are merely white blood
cells about to burst.

Emm...no they are not. White blood cell are microphages whether they
are about to burst or not. The term refers to their ability to ingest
microorganisms.

The DNA, compound or mycotoxin cannot reprogram a
cell to replicate itself, because the activity disrupts the cell
causing it to burst, or to become cancerous.

So how do viruses replicate in that case? Every source I have ever read
on the subject tells me that they do so by subverting the genetic
material of the cells they invade.

Evidently you know something researchers into the subject don't. Why
not share this knowledge with the rest of us?

Or perhaps you are just making this up as you go along.

This is attributable to the fact where the definition of
protein is highly variable.

Emm..no it isn't.

Definitions of protein:
A large complex molecule made up of one or more chains of amino acids.

Highly complex nitrogenous compounds found in all animal and vegetable
tissues. Proteins, the principal constituents of the protoplasm of all
cells, are of high molecular weight and consist essentially of
combinations of amino acids in peptide linkages.

A molecule composed of a long chain of amino acids.

A large molecule composed of one or more chains of amino acids in a
specific order; the order is determined by the base sequence of
nucleotides in the gene coding for the protein.

A molecule composed of amino acids linked together in a particular
order specified by a gene's DNA sequence.

a large, complex molecule composed of amino acids.

A molecule made up of amino acids that are needed for the body to
function properly.

Complex molecules composed of amino acids

A large molecule composed of amino acids.

A polymer of amino acids linked via peptide bonds which may be composed
of two or more polypeptide chains.

A polymer made of any combination of 20 natural amino acids that is
encoded by a gene and is the basis of biological function

a chain of amino acids; examples include hormones, enzymes, and
antibodies.

Amino acids are the building blocks of proteins.

a macromolecule composed of one or several polypeptides. Each
polypeptide consists of a chain of amino acids linked together by
covalent (peptide) bonds.

Proteins are molecules composed of one or more chains of amino acids in
a specific order.

Any of numerous, naturally occurring complex combinations of amino
acids containing the elements carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen,
usually sulfur, and occasionally other elements.

any of a large group of nitrogenous organic compounds that are
essential constituents of living cells; consist of polymers of amino
acids

A protein (in Greek Ï?Ï?Ï?Ï?εÏ?νη = first element) is a complex,
high molecular weight organic compound that consists of amino acids
joined by peptide bonds.

Seems a rather good concensus here.

Anything made up of amino acids.

No, a large molecule made of amino acids joined by peptide links.
Amino acids can form crystals. These are not proteins.

It still looks like the biochemists
(called incorrectly molecular biologists)

No, biochemists and molecular biologists are different disciplines in
biology.

don't know what a molecule
is. How many "molecules" will turn into compounds and chemical
formulas?

A compound *is* a molecule.
And a chemical formula is a technical way of describing the
interactions of atoms and molecules.

You must be making this up as you go along.

I think you are a troll.

RF


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