Re: Challenge for Seanpit


Ray Martinez wrote:
Ken Shackleton wrote:
Ray Martinez wrote:
Ken Shackleton wrote:
Seanpit;

If we were to assume for the sake of argument [and only for the sake of
argument] that ID actually happens.....and I do not accept that it
does....there are certain questions that flow from that assumption that
need to be tackled....and I have never seen these questions
addressed....not even the attempt:

Perhaps you can help out...

1. What criteria is used to come up with a particular design?

2. What methodology is used to actually design the lifeform in
question?

3. What methodology has been used to construct the lifeform?

4. Is the design process ongoing? Does it occur today?

5. Can anything be said about the nature of the designer?

The previous four questions are essentially phony and a cover for the
target question - # 5.

Not really....I wanted to know if there was any scientific attempt at
an answer....thanks for confirming that there is no science in
ID....and that it is simply a religious position.

Ken


IOW, you were dishonest like I pointed out.

Like I predicted Ken relied on atheistic/non-religious philosophical
assumptions, packaged in a scientific wrapper

Previous prediction:

"Darwinist is attempting to trap an IDist into identifying the Designer
with the hope that the IDist will somehow allude to the Genesis
Creator. When this happens the Darwinist will then make a predictable
atheistic philosophical argument disguised in a scientific wrapper."

Could one expect an atheo-Darwinist to do anything else ?

Ken is insisting that his atheism with all of its senseless starting
assumptions to be held as fact/"science".

Atheism? I prefer to imagine God as being able to construct a universe
that can operate by a set of rules that do not require constant
tweaking. I believe that God would be able to build a universe that
functions perfectly, and naturally, by the rules that He
constructed....rather than needing constant maintenance like some
tired, old, rusty Ford Pinto.

An omnipotent God can create a universe in which He can simultaneously
grant us Free Will....yet still have things turn out according to His
Plan.....

My God can create a universe that functions.....your god drives the
Pinto.

Ken


ToE = atheism: my only point.

At least religious persons are open and honest unlike Ken attempting to
hide his philosophical bias by hijacking science. We are religious
because of the evidence.

Ray

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