Re: How New a "Science" is Intelligent Design?

Grendel wrote:
"Elmer" <nylicens@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
Grendel wrote:
"Elmer" <nylicens@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
Grendel wrote:
"Joe Cummings" <joecummings@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I wonder if any ID supporter would like to contradict me.

Why are ID scientists talking real science, while the evolutionists are
talking philosophy?

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JIST he didn't ask for critiques of philosophy. He asked "My friend Tony
Pagano is at present trying to make a living by being consistently coy
about divulging any information whatsoever about ID "research."
And here you are being coy by not presenting ID research.

This is not about what is or what is not presented.

Uh yes it is.

Nope.

Yes it is. I know you seem to have some reading comp problems but what
was asked for was "...any information whatsoever about ID "research." He
did not ask for critiques of philosphy.

This is about what you
and other evolutionists have decided they will accept. You Elmer, have
already decided to not accept what is plainly obvious. Scientifically, we
see design all around us, it is very easy to spot.

Yup. Not a blessed thing violates natural laws.

Of course not! Enter evolution.....then all of a sudden natural laws go out
the window.
All of a sudden, non-living material springs to life!

It did JIST. No question about it:
http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni/uni_101bbtest3.html

And we use those same
observational practices to help determine if something was designed all
the
time. But for some mysterious reason, evolutionists claim that even
though
biological organisms look designed...they aren't.

Of course they're "designed" JIST. Evolution does the designing for
biological things.

Explain this designer.

Natural laws

And after that, please show who designed the
designer.

Insert whatever diety you'd like <here>.

Just as much as water is designed by the oxidation of
hydrogen.

What was the hydrogens intent Elmer?

Did it have one JIST?

Go figure.
And of course, if you happen to be a Christian, this should be more than
enough for you. Go ahead Elmer, squirm and dance your way out of it. And
remember those denials as you stand before your Creator.

Do you think the Creator will appreciate those who lied about His
creation?

What do you think this passage is saying Elmer?

It says that the material creation is obvious. And it is. For anyone,
even atheists. What do you think that passage in Job is saying?

". that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath
shewed
it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the
world
are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made" (Romans
1:19, 20).

It says that the material universe (creation) is obvious. And it is. For
anyone, even atheists. What do you think that passage in Job is saying?

Job 13:7

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