Re: Cure for Alzheimer and autism by creationist technology


nando_ronteltap@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

There are a few problems with your post, Mohammad. It might be easiest
if I just point them out as we come to them.

There's every possibility these two mental diseases could become
treated with creationist technology.

Creationism has neither science nor technology.


What enlightenment can be derived from understanding these diseases in
terms of points of decision?

None. Your talking about "points of decision has always been
incoherent. How would anyone else revognize a decisionpoint, for
example? You have spoken of rain, electrons, God, and now patients as
having or making these decisionpoints. Please explain what it is they
have in common, that they could have decisionpoints. What would a
scientist look for, so that he might study them?

To understand how one point of decision
relates to another, to understand the locality of decisions, the
decisionspeed, and appreciate the spiritual action that determines the
result.

You offer no definition for decisionpoint, and provide no evidence that
these conditions are caused by anything like decisions.


With Alzheimer people forget everything.

Not exactly, altho memory problems are a major symptom.

With autism people become like
machines.

Hardly. Can you even describe the differences between an average person
and a person with autism? Do you have an opinion on whether autism is
one disease, or a cluster with overlapping symptoms? Is it merely
genetic, or are there significant enviormental factors involved? Do you
agree that it is pathology, or is it a normal expression of certain
behavior on a normal spectrum of behavior?

I suggest that these two diseases are one and the same
disease, a lack of free will.

Evidence? How would lack of free will cause these differences? I
thought you said they were caused by a decision; doesn't this
contradict that claim? What is free will - is it a random element in
your behavior, or unpredictability, or simply the sensation that you
are making your decisions? What evidence do you have to support any of
these stances - of have you even thought about it enough to *have an
opinion on these matters?

With alzheimer people can't reach their
memory, because their free will is tied up in loops.

Where is their free will - the amygdala, or the hippocampus, or where?
Please explain the mechism which ties up their free will. Is it
chemical, or metaphysical, or what?

With autism the
same kind of thing occurs, an autist typically has little control over
their thoughts.

How much control do you have over your thoughts? Can you refrain from
thinking of a white elephant for ten minutes?


So as a cure I suggest to insert a decision motor into the brain, or
even just attach it to the skull as some kind of pacemaker for free
will.

A simple motor to inject free will. Riighhtt...


The only thing this motor does is to spurt out 0's and 1's, or the
equivalent of that for human brains (weak and strong electrical
currents). In theory this motor would only work if the decisionpoint
where it is determined that it will be zero in stead of one, is
localized within the motor.

How will random noise injected into the neurochemistry of the brain
give these patients more control of the thoughts? You haven't explained
yet why you think that is their problem.

Please tell me which neurotransmitter will recive these ones and zeros.
Would this be a hitherto unknown circuit in the temporal lobe? The
occipital?


According to methodological naturalism, one would expect the same
result for the same pattern.

No. Nobody who has actually read a book on the brain would think it
nearly as simple, mechanical, nor as accessible as you do.

But according to creationism it will be
totally different depending on where the point of decision is.

You are the *only Creationist to use these phrases, or anything like
them. Your thinking is your own; it has nothing to do with Creationism.

So for
instance if one were to put a machine inside the brain which produces a
*predetermined* pattern from a memory of numbers of for instance
1100101010100101, then it would be totally different then if the same
pattern of 1100101010100101 were actually chosen at this particular
location. That is because the magic of emotions such as love or hate
can only happen at a point of decision.

Emotions aren't magical. My cat's brain generates emotions quite well,
thank you. If you mean "magical" metaphorically, something like
"wonderfu", I would humbly suggest that human thinking is far more
impressive, at its best. Any dog has emotions.


What would happen if one were to have such a decisionmotor inserted
into ones brain?

Short of the immediate brain damage? Infection comes to mind. Your
hypothetical patient is unlikely to live more than a few days. Random
damage is unlikely to improve their brain function.

I suppose at first it would feel like a light of
clarity in one's mind,

Bwahahahaha!

More like an epileptic seizure.

giving one access to memory and control over
thinking. After a while though it might start to feel a bit much too
very bright, like living at the northpole where the sun shines all day
long, keeping one awake all the time. So then finally one is consumed
by the light of the decisionmotor in a hellish painful death.


So... perhaps you should think this through before you start
operating...

Well unfortunately in thought experiment

Thought experiments require some knowledge first, or it's just a
child's day dreaming.

applying creationist methodology

Cretionist methodology seems to consist of wishful thinking and denial,
when it's not symptomatic of psychosis. Mohammad, I'm serious - your
thinking indicates an unwell state. You are extremely confused.

doesn't yet lead to curing the diseases but to death. More
fundamental understanding is needed before one could experiment with
these things. But anyway, I consider creationism a realistic method for
finding the cure for these diseases which are incredibly widespread
among older people.

In turn, I suggest that medical researchers keep learning. With enough
knowledge I am confident that these will be treatable soon (within 20
years).


regards,
Mohammad Nor Syamsu

Kermit

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