Re: California: Board OKs Darwin challenge - Alex Branning Responds


alex.branning@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
Many of you ask why single out evolution? The answer is simple: it is
the only scientific theory that people talk about, arguably the only
one laymen care about.

i knew this argument was coming because it's been made many times by
creationists. they created the foundation for the argument by asserting
the bible is literally true. when shown it's not, they simply ignore
the evidence, and move the goalposts by saying there IS a 'debate'.
rather than a conclusion

it's like the klan saying that the mere existence of the KKK shows
there is some legitimacy to the concept of black inferiority.


neverbetter wrote: "I don't see how it's going to make them more
interested in science and improve their scores if you simply tell them
that you think that the theory of evolution is bogus."
When did I say or imply that the theory of evolution is bogus?

what you're ADMITTING is that the 'debate' about evolution is legit.

it's not. it's simply not. it's a religiously inspired war against
logic and reason. as charles freeman pointed out in his book 'the
closing of the western mind', christianists (and later islamists) would
successfully shut down logic and reason by appealing to authority.
(damon linker in the current issue of the 'new republic' shows how fr.
richard neuhaus is making the same argument today).

rather than positing this as an attempt by christianists in the west,
and islamists in the east to destroy re-nascent logic (which is what
creationism is), the sputniks (fellow travelers) of the haters of
civilization construct this as a 'debate'.

it's not a debate at all. the ONLY 'argument' against evolution comes
from religion. relgion. that's not an argument, it's a nuclear weapon
which leads to intellectual suicide.

why not teach the debate about RELIGION, rather than science?

that would show alex what a true debate IS.


John Harshman writes: "Anyway, how is any policy that is explicitly and
strictly about evolution going to significantly help science test
scores?"
This policy does _not_ explicitly address evolution! We are trying to
get students interested in and intrigued by science, this philosophy is
the best way we know how. Do you have any other ideas, maybe we can
work together?

yeah. you want a debate?

let's debate RELIGION rather than science. the hatred christianists and
islamists have for science SHOULD be the debate, rather than assuming
their hatred of science is rational, and therefore there's something
wrong with SCIENCE.

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Relevant Pages

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