Re: Evolution and Observation Gap
- From: "eyelessgame" <aamp@xxxxxxx>
- Date: 20 Mar 2006 15:07:07 -0800
topmind wrote:
By the way, why is Pluto's orbit so lopsided?
Why do you think Pluto has an "orbit"? We haven't observed a complete
orbit; therefore its "orbit" is pure conjecture. What makes you claim
its orbit is "lopsided"? Not descending into conjecture, are you?
In any case, it's not lopsided, it's eccentric. For someone who seeks
to redefine science, you don't seem to know much of it.
The answer -- to why it's eccentric -- is "because it's a KBO, and most
KBOs' orbits are eccentric, because there was nothing to constrain
their orbits to circles, and smaller bodies are more perturbable than
larger bodies." In the same way, asteroid orbits are mostly quite
eccentric, many of them moreso than Pluto.
The three smallest planets have the three largest eccentricities;
Pluto's eccentricity (.25) is not much greater than Mercury's (.21),
which is only a little more than twice Mars' (.09). Smaller bodies
have less momentum, and over large spans of time events are more likely
to perturb them than larger bodies.
We haven't observed any gravitational effects from any nearby
'Nemesis', which we'd see as (at least) infinitesimal movements of the
outer planets (and which would have screwed up things like Voyager II's
trajectory among the four gas giants).
In about six years Neptune will complete its first orbit since its
discovery. Yet in the year of its discovery -- even before its visual
identification -- its orbit had been plotted, and 165 years later it
will have completed *exactly that orbit*.
Sounds like they knew the fact of its orbital path before it had
actually been observed doing it. Now how do you suppose they could do
that? Conjecture? Somehow, when scientists "conjecture", it seems to
match up very well with later observation. Now why do you suppose that
is?
Anyway, it's all moot. I've observed evolution. Macroevolution, I mean.
That and abiogenesis. I was there, four and a half billion years ago,
when the Earth was formed.
You think I wasn't? OK, don't just conjecture I wasn't. Prove it.
Since you weren't there, you can't. Therefore, by your argument, you
have no *reason* to reject what I say; it's all a matter of faith.
(For you, that is. I know it happened, because I was there.)
eyelessgame
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