Re: the meaning of the holocaust for scientists




Tom McDonald wrote:
Ray Martinez wrote:
Dana Tweedy wrote:
"Ray Martinez" <pyramidial@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Ken Rode wrote:
Ray Martinez wrote:

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Evidence is a ploy and easily denied and
manipulated when the needs of hate are unquenchable.

Ray, is this what you are most guilty of, or am I reading your rants
regarding modern psychology incorrectly?

Ken:

You abandoned the psychology discussion - I answered your lengthy
reply.

Hey, Ray, you've run away from any number of "discussions", including the
one about fossil KNM WT 15000. Are you ever going to address that fossil?


By misrepresenting and ignoring what I wrote to be a "rant" you are
essentially admitting the inability to refute.

Ken did not misrepresent, or ignore what you wrote. He's pointing out one
of your more obvious logical lapses.


Stop being appalled with Holocaust denial and look in the mirror and
see what your kind does with the overwhelming evidence for God in
physical reality.

Perhaps you could present some of this "overwheming evidence for God in
physical reality". Historians can point to a great deal of physical
evidence of the Holocaust. What evidence do you offer for "God in
physical reality"?

We know the Holocaust is a fact

Because of the preponderance of evidence.

= we know God in
reality is a fact.

No, we don't "know" that. I and many others believe that God exists, but
that belief is based on faith, and willingness to trust in our feelings. We
don't have any physical evidence that God exists, and for a person of faith,
no evidence is required.

Holocaust denial = Darwinism does the same with God.

Actually, "Darwinism" does not deny the existance of God. God (or any
other supernatural being) is simply not relevant to the scientific study of
evolutionary processes. Ironically, denying evolution is much closer to
holocaust denial. Both involve ignoring a great deal of evidence.


DJT

Reply intended to only save post from being erased.

Why do you do this, Ray? Dana doesn't use "X-NoArchive-Yes".

Even if he canceled his post (which I have never seen him do), it has
clearly propagated such that you can still read it, as well as the rest
of us.

I'm curious what in Dana's post you intend to use against him. Care to
let us in?

The post is typical Dana: ACLU.

We both know Dana is a pathological liar. He claims to be a Christian.
Everything he says exposes himself not to be as such. My real intent is
the atheists here at T.O. They are not stupid, they know Dana is just
trying to misrepresent the enemy - this is why they never call him on
his obvious lies. If Dana was a real Christian he would be treated like
me. Atheists and theists are mortal enemies. Here at T.O. they are cozy
= one is not as such.

My hook is in Dana's jaw, this is why he follows me around and
stalker-posts. Dana is inflamed with the truth and the only way he can
obtain any satisfaction is put on sheeps clothing while arguing
standard atheistic nonsense. The real issue is: Why do atheists never
stand their own ground by saying ToE is supported by theists ? Answer:
Because ToE is atheist philosophy otherwise and falsified: they NEED
"theists."

Ray

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