Re: It's Gumby Damnit!

I've read many many articles and journals explaining the evidence
applied to natural evolution theory. I am quite aware, or at least,
have been refreshed on all areas of science. But I'm no expert in any
sense of the word, and need not be.

I accept many many facets of the natural evolution "database". I accept
a common ingredient, or ancestry, however, not the way evolutionists
assume these relationships to have played out. Even someone with a
neutral perspective would see that the similiar ingredients for life,
nucleic acids, proteins, genes, organs, limbs, bone structures,
whathaveyou, in such a diverse creation, would yield both close
similarities and major differences, depending on the required
metabolisms, genes and structures for species in various environments.
Example: Water species would share identical similarities...Mammals
similiar......birds similiar, all gentically and structurally.

It would be a no brainer that many species would share a common
process or pathway leading to similiar yet distinct beings. But that
doesn't necessarily mean they did it on their own accord. It could just
as well have been a supernatural generation of species. Relationships
don't mean naturally caused, nor is time necessarily required for the
formation of all of lifeforms today. It just depends on what
methodology you use to discern the possible scenario.

The biblical scenario, taught before the alternative natural scenario,
reveals first and foremost, that God created everything eternal, never
to die, not measured in time. So right away, you get the setting of an
eternal essence of creator and created elements and universe. Only
after the fall, the rejection, you get the breakdown of elements and
life. Only after the fall would extinctions take place.

So it is reasonable to at least suggest that God created life in Eden
quite differently than He did in the post flood dispersal of life. It
also would imply that eternal creative laws changed at the moment of
the fall of man, hence the whole ecosystem and balance of nature would
be tailored to accomodate the new role of this world, a temporary, yet
balanced system of time.

No doubt, age effects are irrelevant now. As are the fossils of
ancient times, for they are inconclusive for determining this
particular scenario, and may in fact, be circumstantial evidence, soley
due to the similarity issue, in relation to structures of living
species today. Not related, but somehow sharing many distinctions
tailored for this earth's climates, environments and habitats. Whereby
nature worshipping evolutionists attribute what is needed, an
ancestorial relationship.

I agree, there is relationship of all species today back in time to
Noah's Ark. I believe the Ark was afloat surrounded by mountains in the
one continent setting(note that God is said to have divided the earth
500 years after the flood). The setting would be the center of this
continent, waters were on outside of the circular mountain. Earth was
kinda like a large stadium at the time, but the waters held back, were
allowed to overflow atop the mountains and flood the lands. Although
not exact, this is the setting I feel the bible hints at.

So perhaps the various kinds of animals on the Ark, were equipped(even
qualified, due to the command to bring "clean" animals aboard, which
was God's way of creating perfection, note that Mary the mother of God
Incarnate had to be perfect or clean in God's eyes) these animals
equipped with the genetic information, or even, just perfect in
essence, whereby God could then change their genetic coding according
to His wise plan to disperse and diverse creation in a postflood
regeneration of species or families.

The mutations observed today are either temporary(forced by man in
labs) and return back to original dna coding, or they are naturally
occurring for their role, as seen in the bacterias, viruses, and
cancers, which are a part of the balance of life and death nature. The
mutations only work to serve to keep death and disease as a continuous
order, always elusive to immunologic resistence. Pefect for the
creation and fall of man scenario.

The only evidence I have a problem with which is used in evolution
debate is the time issue. But like I said, time was created, and had
man not sinned, age of universe wouldn't be noted, nor would it be
realistic or relevant. Eternity would be eternity. So perhaps the age
of the universal objects and elements simpy reflect a tiny part of
eternity in comparison to the initiation of it's creation and the short
timeframe of it's phyical existence. Even in Eden, this may have been
seen as perhaps, a minute in eternity. The geological distribution of
timed fossils could indeed be circumstantial, due to the many earth
changing events after the fall of man mentioned in bible, as well as
the many localized disasters during various times(mudslides, floods,
avalanches etc). In fact, man, in his so-called 100,000 year
migrational journey in evolution as home erectus, surely would've
encountered fossil causing landslides, mudslides, avalanches etc. Where
are the primate fossils in various mountains??

Bristlecones seem to be living witness of the regeneration timeperiod.
They are the oldest living species, and appear to have many thousands
of years to live. They are also found in different continents,
mountainess areas of Europe and Western USA. As were the Mammoths and
Sabortoothed tigers. Which were proven to be hunted extinct by man. So
we have life beginning anew 5,000 years ago, evidence of man causing
extinctions, (and last 500 extinctions attributed to mankind over the
last few hundred years). There's a balance here if you see it. It's
that Trees not only show that there was an interuption of life, because
of their longevity and lack of older trees means disasters prevented
them from existing when they should have. Plus, we have proof that man
has been the cause of death and extinctions, and a biblical attribution
to death and disease to man's rejection of God in recent Eden.

Everything fits pretty good from my perspective, even a neutral
perspective.

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