Re: What happened to the University of California Admissions Case?

On 2 Feb 2006 13:19:17 -0800, jgrisham@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:


unrestrained_h...@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
jgrisham@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Roger Coppock wrote:
Last year, there were two noteworthy creation/evolution cases in
California.
In the first one, a public high school very quickly backed down on it's
attempt
teach ID as Philosophy. However, the other case as dropped off my
RADAR
screen. It was a case where a private Christian high school wanted to
claim
University of California admissions credit for some obviously biased
Biology
and History courses.

Anybody know anything? Google hasn't found anything new. The last I
heard
was that the Judge was considering a UC motion to drop the entire case.

My googling indicated in mid-January 2006 (about 2 weeks ago), both
sides were working together to come to an out of court agreement.

Have you got a cite for that? I haven't found anything recent except that
a summary judgment motion by UC is pending. Then again, I could never find
the Marriage Act of 1868 either.

Presumably, in exchange for accepting the students from last summer and
future enrollees into the UC system, Calvary Chapel Christian School
will make some changes to its textbooks and curriculum. UC is demanding
the exclusion of theistic mention in English, History, Social Sciences
and Science.


It wasn't theist "mention" that UC was complaining about, but poor
teaching of science in particular - religion at the expense of science.

The problem is that you have UC accepting other students from other
private schools teaching Creationism and rebuking evolution as a fraud,
but they haven't been barred from enrollment.

What makes you think anyone has been barred from UC? UC has refused, AIUI,
to give some courses advanced credit toward admission because they did not
meet UC's standards. The texts in question could have been supplementary
reading in such courses, but not the main textbook.

Christopher Patti, a lawyer for the university, says UC isn't
stopping Calvary Chapel or its students "from teaching or
studying anything." He says students are free to take courses
uncertified by UC, and there are alternative paths to
admission -- including taking extra SAT tests in specific
subjects.

UC has certified 43 Calvary Chapel courses and has admitted 24
of the 32 applicants from the high school in the past four years,
Patti says.
<http://www.beliefnet.com/story/183/story_18309_1.html>

Calvary Chapel teaches
evolution (albeit, in part, from a textbook provided by the Bob Jones
University), as well as, Intelligent Design (I'm not sure how?) and
Creationism (Let's call it an imaginative and well-rounded education).
Futhermore, they challenged UC to test their students to how well they
understand evolution and UC said that wasn't the issue. So whatever
it's about, it is clearly NOT about science or religion.

I'm not sure at this point UC knows what it's about.

Of course, that might just be an effect of your not knowing what it is
about.


If they come to an agreement, then presumably Calvary Chapel will have
convinced UC that future students will have the necessary science (and
other) material to satisfy new university student requirements. UC has
never cared if courses were taught in a religious framework.

Well, that appears to have changed.
The Catholic schools are concerned that UC's interest in dictating the
curriculum of their English, History and Social Science programs will
hinge on whatever Calvary Chapel accepts.

Really? Got a cite on that?

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