Re: Things I've Noticed About Intelligent Design/Creationist Proponents
- From: "Richard Forrest" <richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 31 Jan 2006 05:38:52 -0800
NashtOn wrote:
> Lee Jay wrote:
> > NashtOn wrote:
> >
> >>There is evidence for evolution, but evolution is not observable. Any
> >>scientific experiment that cannot be observed ceases to be scientific
> >>and is in the realm of speculation and wishful thinking...
> >
> >
> > Ignoring for the moment the fact that evolution *is* observable, you
> > are arguing that the observations of black holes are not science
> > because black holes aren't observable. If you observe their effects
> > (tidal forces tearing apart stars, gravitation causing fast orbits,
> > accretion, radiation, magnetic fields, etc.), and you can't see the
> > object itself where it should be, you *can* conclude that it's a black
> > hole.
> >
> > Electrons aren't observable. Does that mean you don't believe in
> > lightning (an observable effect of electrons on other molecules)? Does
> > it mean you don't believe in the electricity running the computer you
> > are currently using (another observable effect of electrons)? Does it
> > mean you don't believe in chemistry (which is really the study of
> > electrons)?
> >
> > Lee Jay
> >
>
> Do people who study black holes and other astrophysical phenomena also
> xpost to atheism ngs? ;)
Killer argument!
If people who study black holes post to atheism ngs, black holes can
not exist.
We'd better cross-check the logs of those groups to resolve the problem
with which physicists have been struggling for decade. What a waste of
time for academics like Steven Hawkin to spend their lives trying to
figure out the mathematical conundrums of quantum physics: all he
needed to do was to wait for the invention of the internet, and see who
posts on the newsgroups.
RF
>
> --
> Nicolas
>
> "The reason the theory of evolution is so controversial is that it is
> the main scientific prop for scientific naturalism. Students first learn
> that "evolution is a fact," and then they gradually learn more and more
> about what that "fact" means. It means that all living things are the
> product of mindless material forces such as chemical laws, natural
> selection, and random variation. So God is totally out of the picture,
> and humans (like everything else) are the accidental product of a
> purposeless universe. Do you wonder why a lot of people suspect that
> these claims go far beyond the available evidence?" Phillip E.Johnson,
> The Church Of Darwin
.
- References:
- Things I've Noticed About Intelligent Design/Creationist Proponents
- From: APOCALYPSE
- Re: Things I've Noticed About Intelligent Design/Creationist Proponents
- From: NashtOn
- Re: Things I've Noticed About Intelligent Design/Creationist Proponents
- From: Lee Jay
- Re: Things I've Noticed About Intelligent Design/Creationist Proponents
- From: NashtOn
- Things I've Noticed About Intelligent Design/Creationist Proponents
- Prev by Date: Re: A matter of evidence
- Next by Date: Re: Non-claims
- Previous by thread: Re: Things I've Noticed About Intelligent Design/Creationist Proponents
- Next by thread: Re: Things I've Noticed About Intelligent Design/Creationist Proponents
- Index(es):
Relevant Pages
|