Re: Reply to "Judge Jones said it, I believe it, that settles it"




wade wrote:
> catshark wrote:
>
> > Yeah, that is always a problem with these kinds of things. How do you
> > balance saying everything that *could* be said while keepng it short
> > enough that non-lawyers stay *just* this side of MEGO, without leaving
> > out anything that *must* be said?
> >
> > Suffice it to say, if you haven't been through the Kitzmiller decision
> > at least once, it won't make much sense. The good thing is you won't
> > understand Francisco's article either.
>
> With all respect, your response sucks.

De gustibus non disputum est.

>
> And I don't think I disagree with a word of it. But I'm inclined to
> distill it
> to something that would work if targeted to a letters to the editor
> type
> response. For instance,
>
> In his critique of the Kitzmiller decision, Michael Francisco asks why
> judge jones comments on the scientific merits of ID and goes on to
> attack him for having done so. The best response to be to suggest that
> one actually read the Kitzmiller decision because it's all in there. In
> short,
> if ID isn't science it's obvious religious ties become clear while
> shining
> light on the actual motives of those pushing ID. The discovery
> instutute
> filed a brief with the court arguing that ID is science with the
> further
> argument that _because_ ID is science, it's religious connections
> don't matter. The defendants repeat essentially the same argument.
>
> Why did Judge Jones evaluate the scientific merit of ID? The defense
> (and the discovery institute) effectively asked him to. Jones
> then did so and found ID wanting. Rather than complain about it,
> perhaps the DI should reflect on something Michael Francisco
> ought to learn in law school. Don't ask questions that you don't
> want to be answered. Don't raise the issues you don't want address.
>
> ****
> Yeah, it suck too but it gets it over with faster.

Funny, I thought it was perfect for a Letters to the Editor column.

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