Re: Kolmorgorov Complexity and Kim Øyhus

Seanpit wrote:
> hersheyhv wrote:
> > Seanpit wrote:
> > > R. Baldwin wrote:
> > >
> > [snip]
> > >
> > > My whole point is that Kolmogorov Complexity is not at all the same
> > > thing as functional complexity.
> >
> > On that we can agree. Functional complexity, as you use the term, has
> > no meaning at all that has any relationship to function. Your use is
> > neither consistent nor consistently measureable. Kolmogorov
> > Complexity, is, OTOH, both consistent and measureable.
>
> You yourself have already agreed that various functional systems
> require certain minimum amounts of genetic real estate in order for
> their function, like flagellar motility, to be realized at all. That
> is a very meaningful and measurable concept since different types of
> functional systems have very different minimum requirements.

Sure it's meaningful and measurable, but it isn't a measure of
functional complexity.

I might as well measure the size of peoples' houses (meaningful,
measurable, and related) in an attempt to ascertain their height.

> You actually recognize this, when you are actually forced to admit the
> obvious, but say that this has nothing to do with how such systems can
> or cannot evolve.
>
> Sean Pitman
> www.DetectingDesign.com

My understanding is that he says it's not a meaningful measure
of functional complexity, not that it has nothing to do evolving.

Similarly, the size of my house is related to my size - as I live
in it, I am obviously not bigger than it. It's not, however, a
meaningful measure of my size.

--
John Drayton

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