Re: Part 1 (of 3): What are major aspects of evolutionary theory?
- From: r norman <NotMyRealEmail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:40:15 -0500
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:16:18 -0800, anon1@xxxxxxx wrote:
>> I never cared for the "fitness landscape" metaphor because it assumes
>> that fitness is a continuous function of whatever is on the axes of
>> variation. These are not continuous parameters and subtle changes in
>> regulatory genes can produce rather abrupt and discontinuous changes
>> in phenotype, hence in fitness.
>
>I suppose the rationale is that most non-fatal mutations are really
>tiny steps, and a continuous landscape is a reasonable mathematical
>model for a descrete but very finely-divided staircase. Really huge
>regulatory changes usually screw up the overall interlocked system so
>badly as to be virtually always fatal. Or such changes make one
>individual totally incompatible with all other members of what was his
>species, so even if he can survive, he can't produce offspring. So most
>of the time giant steps can be ignored as a course of evolution. But
>all it takes is one such giant mutation to succeed every few million
>years, something making an allelle very much more successful than the
>ancestral allelle, yet not mating-incompatible, and suddenly there's a
>big evolutionary jump. So maybe the correct metaphor is a fitness
>landscape with the ability of individuals to shout "Geronimo" and jump
>into a strong breeze with a hang-glider and take their chances where
>they might land on a new island far from home.
Those fatal mutations are also quite striking discontinuities in the
landscape.
>> Still, the fact is that evolution is always about populations and
>> never about individuals. Selection pressure changes the allele
>> frequency in a population.
>
>You're seeing only half the picture of evolution, the half whereby
>already-exiting variation is tested and only the best is retained.
>You're overlooking the other half of evolution, whereby one individual
>suffers a mutation whch changes the fitness of that individual and of
>any descendents that individual might begat, thereby adding new
>variation to the population. That individual's mutation, and the
>mutations within other individual, are essential for evolution to
>produce new characters rather than merely narrow down the whole world's
>life to a single genotype.
>
>The anti-evolutionists, who claim evolution can only purify the race,
>never produce a new race, make the same omission you made there. You
>are playing into their hands, giving them quotes to mine.
>.
Selection pressure, a term that you disparage, occurs only after
mutation has introduced the new allele into the mix. Nothing in my
statement even suggests that I am listing all the factors behind
evolution. I am only describing one of them. I was also making the
extremely important point that you seem to have missed in earlier
posts, and whose significance you snipped away, about the population
nature of evolution.
.
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