Re: Clear the Deck

Zoe wrote:

> On 20 Nov 2005 04:16:14 -0800, "John Drayton"
> <bitbucket55@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >R. Baldwin wrote:
> >
> >> "Zoe" <muze10@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:mpkun1hcq2ckjbifu9pdporv8dpnsspkoj@xxxxxxxxxx
> >> > On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 07:20:56 -0600, "Ron Young"
> >> > <byoung@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > snip>
> >> >
> >> >>Well, it goes to show, you really have to read stuff carefully. I totally
> >> >>missed the reference to talk.origins and, like you, thought it was 2
> >> >>creationists from different religious camps going at it, while the
> >> >>scientist
> >> >>who left the thingy on the table went out for coffee.
> >> >
> >> > No, Ron, it wasn't a fight between two creationists.
> >> >
> >> > A student left the data on the table. No identity offered.
> >> >
> >> > Two analysts -- scientists, if you will -- formed opinions about the
> >> > data.
> >> >
> >> > "You believe you came from a monkey, you're no scientist." Clang. "I
> >> > have mountains of evidence to support me." (drum roll)
> >> >
> >> > "You believe you came from intelligence, you're no scientist." Clash.
> >> > I have mountains of evidence to support me. (trumpets blare)
> >> >
> >> > And meanwhile...the data belongs to no one.
> >> >
> >>
> >> What data do you have in mind, Zoe?
> >
> >I think it was a microwave with some molten chocolate in it.
>
> not quite that, John, but hey, why not include that, too. :-)
>
> The results of my kitchen experiments don't give me the right to
> demand that you accept my interpretation of how chocolate behaves when
> heated, just because I did the work.

I'm comfortable that your observations about the behaviour
of chocolate are ccurate. I just see no reason why molten
rocks behave the same way.

I could try to replicate your chocolate experiments, but
don't think I could bring myself to sacrifice valuable
chocolate like this :)

> And physically experimenting
> with what it takes for a substance to become thoroughly mixed does not
> give me ownership of the results such that I can now tell you that my
> interpretation is the correct one.
>
> >Oh, BTW, welcome back Zoe ;)
>
> thanks, John. You are one of those who induced me to think more
> deeply.

Why thanks.

I certainly clarified some of my own thoughts in the
process, and have thoroughly enjoyed the whole
thing.

--
John Drayton

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