Re: CALL THE RSPRS (Was: Re: Evolution makes no predictions ...)

shane wrote:
> NashtOn wrote:
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>>Kleuskes & Moos wrote:
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>>>NashtOn schreef:
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>>>>Kleuskes & Moos wrote:
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>>>>>bimms@xxxxxxxx schreef:
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>>>>>>Evolution supposedly proceeds by "random" mutation. This is too vague.
>>>>>>Such vagueness cannot be applied toward any type of technology.
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>>>>>Strawman #1.
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>>>>>Evolution does not proceed by random mutations. Mutations are random,
>>>>>true, but evolution depends on those that bring a selective advantage.
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>>>>Yep, and most of them, if not all are deleterious even *fatal* and
>>>>contribute to degradation of the genetic pool.
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>>>That is, in fact, contrary to all evidence we possess and can be
>>>refuted by a simple experiment (demonstration, really) which can be
>>>conducted in the classroom. It involves E-Coli and
>>>penicillin-resistance. I think you know this classic little
>>>demonstration.
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>>Mutations are extremely rare, in the order of 1 per 100000000-100000000
>>bacteria.
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> With no data to back it up. Just another theory, more conjecture and not
> a spec of data.

Here you go, stupid:

http://www.bioteach.ubc.ca/Biodiversity/AttackOfTheSuperbugs/

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>>This type of resistance is primary resistance.
>>You will have to keep up with real science and epidemiology, Einstein.
>>Furthermore, o clueless one, you need many mutations in order to develop
>>true and tangible primary resistance.
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> With no data to back it up. Just another theory, more conjecture and not
> a spec of data.
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>>Even though what is called vertical gene transfer occurs, it is
>>*extremely* rare and accounts for extremely little of what is known as
>>resistance.
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> With no data to back it up. Just another theory, more conjecture and not
> a spec of data.
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>>Look up HGT in order to educate yourself before you spew forth even more
>>nonsense.
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>>Secondly, mutations are deleterious, fatal and extremely rare and of
>>little or no benefit to organisms.
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> With no data to back it up. Just another theory, more conjecture and not
> a spec of data.
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> <snip>
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>>>>>Darwin himself proposed a ways to falsify ToE.
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>>>>He did? Any experimental evidence or is this just "theory", *again*?
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>>>See "On the origin of species". Look it up yourself, the book is
>>>accesible
>>>enough.
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>>The fact of the matter is that what Darwin wrote is not what is
>>significant. What is significant is whether we can, with the help of the
>>data, falsify ToE.
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> We?
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>>So far, we can't.
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> We?
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>>><snip>
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>>>>># Strawman #5
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>>>>>In fact ToE makes a lot of predictions that can (and have) been
>>>>>verified during our lifetime.
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>>>>>http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CA/CA210.html
>>>>>http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolphil/predict.html
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>>>>LOL. LOL. Redefining science from a philosophical standpoint to make
>>>>science fit ToE and not the other way around.
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>>>>Do you actually believe your own lies?
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>>>I don't lie. You do.
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>>I do not lie,
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> With no data to back it up. Just another theory, more conjecture and not
> a spec of data.
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> <snip>
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> Shane
> The truth will set you free.
>

Are you for real?

Nicola

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