Re: Biblical Statements Consistent With Astronomy
- From: shane <remarcsdNOSPAM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 18:03:00 +1000
Glenn wrote:
> shane wrote:
>
>>Glenn wrote:
>>
>>>shane wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Richard Dawkins wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Statements Consistent With Astronomy
>>>>> a.. The Bible frequently refers to the great number of stars in
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>
>>>>>heavens. Here are two examples.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Genesis 22:17
>>>>> Blessing I will bless you, and multiplying I will multiply
>
> your
>
>>>>>descendants as the stars of the heaven and as the sand which is
>
> on
>
>>>>>the seashore; and your descendants shall possess the gate of
>
> their
>
>>>>>enemies.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeremiah 33:22
>>>>> "As the host of heaven cannot be numbered, nor the sand of the
>>>>>sea measured, so will I multiply the descendants of David My
>>>
>>>servant
>>>
>>>
>>>>>and the Levites who minister to Me."
>>>>> Even today, scientists admit that they do not know how many
>
> stars
>
>>>>>there are. Only about 3,000 can be seen with the naked eye. We
>
> have
>
>>>>>seen estimates of 1021 stars-which is a lot of stars.[2] (The
>>>
>>>number
>>>
>>>
>>>>>of grains of sand on the earth's seashores is estimated to be
>
> 1025.
>
>>>>>As scientists discover more stars, wouldn't it be interesting to
>>>>>discover that these two numbers match?)
>>>>
>>>>What, the number of abrahams descendants equaling the number of
>>>
>>>stars
>>>
>>>
>>>>added to the number of grains of sand. I suggest you take along a
>>>
>>>book
>>>
>>>
>>>>to read while you wait.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I suggest you learn how to read. He's clearly plagarizing a source,
>>>but his only point is that the Bible claims to compare the number
>>>of stars to the number of grains of sand, and he's interested to know
>>>if the two amounts match. He's made no claim about abrahams
>>>descendents at all, only that he quotes entire sentences in order to provide
>>>evidence of what is in the Bible concerning stars and sand. You
>>>need to take a book with you to the sandbox.
>>>
>>Nice try Glenn, but no cigar. The quoted verses do not compare the
>>numbers of sand grains to the numbers of stars. The only comparison
>>mentioned is the one in the verse from Genesis, which is as I
>>stated, Abrahams descendants compared to the stars and the sand. However to
>>be really picky, it seems odd that a bible believer would consider that
>>the stars and sand can even be numbered, as theverse from Jeremiah
>>quite plainly states that they cannot.
>
>
> Wow. First you claim I was wrong about saying that the poster was
> comparing,
Another nice try, and another cigar missed. I did not say you were wrong
about what the poster was comparing, I said the poster was comparing the
wrong things based on the verses he quoted.
> then make the same claim.
Ahh, but I did not make the same claim, I said the scriptural comparison
was between Abrahams descendants and the number of stars added to the
number of sand grains.
> You see, if they can be numbered,
> they can be compared.
No argument there, although it is irrelevant to the topic.
> And that is precisely what he proposed.
What he proposed was the comparison of the number of stars to the number
of sand grains, as if the co-incidence of number supported a biblical
truth. However no such claim is made in the scriptures he gave, so he
was reading something into scripture that was not there.
> Perhaps
> your cigar is performing some nonstandard function.
Well it is making you look foolish. And I don't smoke, so I will not
miss it.
> You were wrong
> about what he was comparing,
Not at all, I knew he was comparing stars to sand. I just pointed out
his error in making that comparison, as he should have been comparing
Abrahams descendants to stars + sand.
> it wasn't Abrahams descendents.
And it should have been, based on the only comparison given in the two
scriptures he quoted.
> The truth
> shall set you free, Shane.
Indeed it has set me free, perhaps you could also try it one day, you
may find it a refreshing change.
--
shane
And the truth shall set you free.
.
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