Re: A complete sequence of transitional fossils

John Harshman wrote:
> Augray wrote:
>
>
>>On 21 Sep 2005 16:36:34 -0700, "Ray Martinez" <pyramidial@xxxxxxxxx>
>>wrote in news:<1127345794.448290.199380@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>
>>[snip]
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>>
>>
>>>We know the fossil record shows no signs of intermediacy. [source:
>>>Charles Darwin, Stephen Jay Gould, Richard Milton]
>>
>>
>> Since we proposed punctuated equilibrium to explain trends, it is
>> infuriating to be quoted again and again by creationists - whether
>> through design or stupidity, I do not know - as admitting that the
>> fossil record includes no transitional forms. Transitional forms
>> are generally lacking at the species level but are abundant between
>> larger groups.
>>
>> - Gould, S. J. 1983. Evolution as Fact and Theory. In "Hen's Teeth
>> and Horse's Toes". New York: W. W. Norton & Company.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Like atheist Richard Milton has proven: no transitional sequences
>>>exist.
>>
>>
>>Milton's wrong. For instance, the "transitional sequence" of "reptiles"
>>to modern birds can be outlined as: Scleromochlus, Lagerpeton,
>>Lagosuchus, Marasuchus, Eoraptor, Herrerasaurus, Coelophysis,
>>Sinosauropteryx, Dilong, Caudipteryx, Protarchaeopteryx,
>>Epidendrosaurus, Scansoriopteryx, Sinornithosaurus, Microraptor,
>>Cryptovolans, Archaeopteryx, Rahonavis, Jeholornis, Shenzhouraptor,
>>Jixiangornis, Sapeornis, Confuciusornis, Sinornis, Chaoyangia,
>>Liaoningornis, Yixianornis, Yanornis, Apsaravis, Ichthyornis, Limenavis,
>>and Lithornis.
>
>
> Why Lithornis? It's within the crown group. You could as well pick
> Passer. And Limenavis is too fragmentary to make a good transitional.
> Not sure how many enantiornithines you want to include in this list
> either. Good sequence in general, though.
>
> Ray won't like it, but at this point I don't know why. Because it's just
> a list of names, with no pictures? When you get pictures, it will be
> just pictures, obviously taken from biased angles. If you have him go to
> one of the traveling exhibits that have many of these fossils in them,
> they will just be a bunch of bones with no clear ordering.

But presented with the visual rhetoric of the bones! And tactical
rhetoric of the bones if you touch them - danger, that will draw you
into "reality"! Ray is not falling for that!

>
> He won't do the work himself and he won't trust you to do it for him, so
> there's pretty much no way to show him anything.
>
>
>>>This microscopic mumbo jumbo is tantamount to 19th century early 20th
>>>century archaeology fakes displayed in dim rooms behind colored glass.

Yes, the doctor shows you this stuff through a microscope, about disease
organisms. Mumbo jumbo - everybody knows it is bad humours or evil
spirits.

Tracy P. Hamilton

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