Re: Abiogenisis

TomS wrote:
> "On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 11:20:38 GMT, in article
> <agSXe.1006$oc.653@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Chris Devol stated..."
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>>"Ian H Spedding" <ian.spedding@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>Chris Devol wrote:
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>>>>"Ian H Spedding" <ian.spedding@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>>>Chris Devol wrote:
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>>>>>>"newsy" <newsy@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>>>>>Assuming abiogenisis occurred on the earth,
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>>>>>>No evidence of that whatsoever.
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>>>>>The evidence is all around us. Whether Goddidit or it emerged
>>>>>naturally, life emerged from non-life. Whether it first happened on
>>>>>Earth or elsewhere in the Universe is another matter.
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>>>>On the contrary, the evidence is overwhelming that life comes from life.
>>>>To
>>>>prove this, you can try to name an organism that hasn't come from another
>>>>organism.
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>>>Both science and the Bible agree that the inanimate Universe was
>>>created before any living things appeared, hence, life must have
>>>emerged from non-life.
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>>"Appeared" does not mean the same thing as "emerged". Life "emerged" from
>>life, not from non-life. Life "appeared" when it emerged from life (God) and
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> Oh, my.
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> Things "emerged" from God?

Another bloody Neo-Platonist gnostic. Jeez. Stamp 'em out in one place and
they spring up like weeds elsewhere...
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>>entered into biochemical machines, which were constructed specifically for
>>the purpose of housing conscious living beings. But the beings were already
>>living. They merely chenged residences.
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>>Abiogenesis is the idea that life emerged from non-living chemicals, without
>>any outside influence except the impersonal "laws of physics" acting on
>>atoms and molecules. According to this view, life is a purely materialistic
>>phenomenon, a mere property of matter in a certain state of organization. In
>>other words, according to this viewpoint, the difference between "living"
>>and "non-living" is basically an illusion.
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>>But there are certain properties of living beings which are not amenable to
>>such materialistic reductionism. Consciousness, for example, cannot be
>>described in terms of the laws of physics acting on molecules.
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>>Therefore, abiogenesis is unacceptable. Life comes from life.
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--
John S. Wilkins, Postdoctoral Research Fellow, Biohumanities Project
University of Queensland - Blog: evolvethought.blogspot.com
"Darwin's theory has no more to do with philosophy than any other
hypothesis in natural science." Tractatus 4.1122

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