Re: Does Katrina prove the non-existence of God?
- From: "Ray Martinez" <pyramidial@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 1 Sep 2005 12:12:16 -0700
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> >
> > The existence of catastrophes is because the earth and all life was
> > cursed when Adam and Eve sinned.
> >
> > The O.T. ends with the word "curse".
> >
> It should be noted, perhaps, that the Jews traditionally arrange the books
> of the Hebrew scriptures in a different order, so that Malachi falls before
> the book of Psalms and the other "writings." The order of the canon is not,
> itself, specified in the Bible (neither, come to think of it, are the
> contents of the canon).
> >
Atheists do not believe God exists, so they are certainly ineligible to
understand anything about the canon as is seen in your reply.
Stick to evading observations about the meaningless, "survival of the
fittest"
> > Katrina/tsunami's/earthquakes prove the Bible.
> >
> According to Norse mythology, earthquakes are caused because Loki is
> writhing in torment as a monster serpent drips venom on him. Why do
> earthquakes not prove the Elder Edda? According to Greek mythology, all the
> troubles of the world escaped Pandora's Box when Pandora, in a fit of
> curiousity, opened it. Why do category-4 hurricanes not prove the Pandora
> myth? For that matter, the curse in Genesis mentions thorns and weeds and
> the sweat of our brows, not hurricanes. Shouldn't you be citing kudzu
> rather than Katrina as proof of the Bible?
>
Nobody has a problem with attempting to NOT confuse mythology with
truth/non-fiction.
Deliberately associating myths with God's word is best summed up by
saying: look at what a person must do to falsify truth - compare it
with what everyone knows is not true/myths.
When Adam/Eve sinned the Earth and all its future inhabitants were
cursed and placed under the custody of Satan.
The effects of the curse (evil, disasters, etc.etc.) is intended to
constantly remind mankind that he is cursed because of his sins and
unless you receive the only way of escape - the gospel/way of faith to
relate to God, then you will be destroyed like what we see rouitinely
on this Earth.
Calamities are intended to show us everything is not alright, the
judgement of hell is looming.
But Satan loving assholes like Dana Tweedy who assert Genesis does not
mean what it says = Satan's bidding by saying God does not mean what He
says about sudden creation, then the judgement of hell is also not
taken seriously, God does not mean what He says = Satan's goal. All to
preserve atheist face and philosophy and rage against God via their
creation myth that has no evidence.
> In general, you do not "prove" an explanation merely by noting that the
> phenomenon it was devised to explain in fact exists. Otherwise, you would
> simultaneously prove every explanation ever offered for that phenomenon.
> You need to show, at least, that the explanation accounts for the details of
> the phenomenon better than any other explanation.
I have, and the explanation explains the others just as well.
All I have done is RELAY what the Bible says.
Reality corroborates.
> >
> > As for christians dying, the Bible says the rain falls on the just and
> > unjust alike.
> >
> Indeed. Jesus also notes (Luke 13) the tower of Siloam and the men killed
> in its collapse, arguing that these men were not worse than other sinners
> and did not deserve death more than other men who escaped such accidents.
> The book of Job, likewise, implies that humans should not presume to
> understand all God's purposes, nor be confident in declaring that the
> misfortunes of others are God's punishments. Yet the tendency to do just
> that is recurrent in Christian history.
> >
> > Ray Martinez
> >
> -- Steven J.
I always said you had a very good Bible aptitude as is seen in the
paragraph above.
I couldn't agree more with everything you said.
The tendency you speak of is sinning human nature, Pharisaical,
Fundamentalist.
We all tend to slip into thinking misfortune is God's punishment.
All faiths believe that evil is a punishment of a higher power.
Decent God-conscious persons fight this urge and thank Him that He
spared them.
Ray Martinez
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