Re: talk.origins faq Hitler claim part 3


<nando_ronteltap@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> It sure is a very strange way to say something does not imply a moral
> imperative, by saying it is value-laden.

*You're* saying it is value-laden. And you're the only one.

> But that is just utter nonsense of course.

As is most of your discourse.

> As before, there is no other rational explanation
> to the word value-laden, your previous explanation of it referring to
> circuity was false, as shown.
>
> You are the best human being?
>
> It implies a moral claim yes, especially since it's a result of a
> mistakenly goalbased process.

Best says nothing about my characters, only about my survival
to reproduce.

> The struggle / competition then becomes
> conceived as the act of will that drives natural selection towards the
> goal of optimal fitness, the mistakenly goalbased theory.

Only in your tiny mind. The struggle is a metaphoric one. There
is no conscious "will" behind it.

> Why are you
> the best human being? Because of your goodness.

No, because I have been able to survive to have children.

> What is your goodness?
> Your perfected heritable qualities that facillitate reproduction,
> preserved by natural selection, the struggle for higher, and higher.

There is explicitly no "higher." There is only the survival to reproduce.

>
> In any case Ariew and Matthen are still saying it is "entirely
> inappropiate". Why it seems you are saying there's nothing much
> inappropiate about it?

Ariew says you misunderstood him. Stop relying on Ariew. He
doesn't back you up.

>
> When so ever are you going to blame Darwinist scientists for
> conceptualizing natural selection wrong for 150+ years, in stead of
> just blaming people who interpreted natural selection according to
> reasonable human understanding ?

This sentence; no meaning.

>
> regards,
> Mohammad Nor Syamsu
>

.

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