Re: What are the evolutionists hiding?




r norman wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 14:14:02 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
> <nowhere@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >Logos wrote:
> >
> >> Evolutionists would like for you to believe that life sprang spontaneously
> >> from non-life, almost by magic.
> >
> >Actually the ToE says nothing of the kind. It says life has become
> >modified over time since it originally apeared and it offers a theory as
> >to how that happens. ToE does not address the problem of abiogenisis.
> >
> >The anti-evolutionists have trundled out this stinking carnard since
> >1859. It was false when Slippery Sam Wilberforce invoked it and it is
> >false now.
>
> Sorry, that answer simply doesn't work. What you say is technically
> true about how the "Theory of Evolution" is defined. However it is
> quite true that people who understand that evolution of life obeys
> natural laws as described by TOE also, in fact, almost universally
> believe that abiogenesis occurred by natural laws so that life did
> arise spontaneously from non-life. You can't get around that fact
> simply by arguing that the subject has a different name.
>
> There are far better ways to answer the query.

That is just science. That isn't the theory of biological evolution.
What scientific field doesn't make such distinctions? Are theories of
stellar function and evolution suspect because we don't know everything
else? Is the Big Bang suspect because we don't know what happened
before the big bang?

What part of the theory of biological evolution depends on our
understanding of abiogenesis? It is obvious that we can study the
evolution of life after abiogenesis without understanding abiogenesis.
Science tries to understand as many answers as it can come up with, but
it doesn't depend on knowing everything or we wouldn't call it science.
Scientists would be called librarians or theologians if they thought
that they had all the answers.

Ron Okimoto

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Relevant Pages

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