Re: DI's Bibliography of Peer-Reviews & Peer-Edited Publications...




Frank Sullivan wrote:
> http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/index.php?command=view&id=2640&program=CSC%20-%20Scientific%20Research%20and%20Scholarship%20-%20Science
>
> I'm not sure what to think. Based on past experience I could jump to
> the conclusion that this is a dishonest page, that the journals in
> question aren't independent, and/or that the importance of these
> articles is overstated by the page. But instead of jumping to
> conclusions I thought I'd post it here to see what y'all thought.
>
> - Frank

Since Meyers supposedly withdrew the paper, he should be treating it as
if it didn't exist in print. Since he is director of the CSC at the DI
he should have them note that the paper has been withdrawn. That the
guy responsible for this list wouldn't know such a detail is pretty
stupid. Scam comes to mind again. Whatever they can get away with.
There is double dipping where some of the articles are listed twice,
one of them being the defunct Meyers paper.

The laughable thing is that they list Wells' paper, when Wells could
only go around three posts at ISCID trying to defend his notion. This
was under the replacement rules where only a certain select group could
post there. Wells exposed himself as the IDiot that he is. He
couldn't claim that he was unfairly beaten up, he just couldn't defend
the junk in the paper. It is pretty lame to even consider that paper
as something to list in support of ID when the author couldn't even
support the junk in it under optimal conditions.

We all know of what value the ID bull pucky is because of all of the
really great stuff that they presented in places like Ohio and Dover to
defend ID. It is kind of sad that they had to admit that there wasn't
anything to support in those cases. Why can't they support teaching
this peer reviewed junk? What IDiot would have the nerve to list a
book about teaching ID when the Discovery Institute is calling the
rubes that still want to teach ID "confused?" The Discovery
Institute's latest scam is the "teach the controversy" scam that Meyers
himself wrote up in 1999. The teach the controversy scam doesn't even
mention ID. ID is only used as a dishonest smoke screen to make it
look like there is some controversy that the creationist rubes would
want to teach.

There is progress of a sort. Three articles in journals that I have
never read in 28 years as a researcher. I had never even heard of
them, and I did my graduate work on molecular evolution. I have read
articles in Theoretical Biology, but Denton is out at the DI. It seems
that the tent wasn't big enough to include him. That they would put up
one of his articles in support of ID is pretty stupid. They all wish
that he had never written his second book. It makes it harder to
misrepresent science using the first one.

Ron Okimoto

.



Relevant Pages

  • Re: American education [Was:Re: What is Intelligent Design?]
    ... issue in support of intelligent design are like this. ... the creationist scam. ... explanation for the ID perps running in a switch scam that doesn't ...
    (talk.origins)
  • Re: Do we need to set up an anti-Discovery Institute
    ... When the scam artists that perpetrated the ID scam ... support teaching ID. ... Meyers admission that he did not support teaching ID in his statements ...
    (talk.origins)
  • Re: Open Office problems
    ... The scam I discovered is still there but not as numerous. ... They put up sites that charge you for providing a download link to ... worth something if they also provided value added support services etc. ... on that list we get emails from people demanding their ...
    (Ubuntu)
  • Re: Luskin on Derbyshire and TO, part 2
    ... the super secret research going on at the Discovery Institute. ... fiction books and videos coming out of the ID scam artists. ... So the question is that if the expert ID support witnesses had to admit ... of creationism, ...
    (talk.origins)
  • Re: Warning: Evolutionists are rabid!
    ... Now if you express support for academic freedom and speak ... evolution and intelligent design thanks in part to a comment from ... these clowns are only concerned with creationnews, ... it would spoil their latests scam ...
    (talk.origins)