Re: My views on evolution



Stephen Montgomery-Smith <stephen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> r norman wrote:
> > On 6 Aug 2005 17:40:12 -0700, "Stephen Montgomery-Smith"
> > <stephen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> > The simple fact is that the probability calculations proposed by IDers
> > are totally flawed from beginning to end.

> Most likely I didn't make myself clear in my original post, but I was
> actually critisizing this "probabilistic" line of argument that the ID
> movement use, just as you did. Its main flaw is that we have
> absolutely no idea what the underlying probability space is, or how to
> calculate these probabilities. Their calculations have the same
> speculative feel to them as say Drake's equation (to estimate how many
> intelligent civilizations there are in the universe).

> Nevertheless, I do think it very likely that the I.D. people are
> correct in their conclusions, even if their reasoning is wrong. I have
> to admit that is based upon my interpretation of the Bible - I feel
> that the Genesis account is incompatible with humans evolving from
> lesser species, even if the Genesis account is interpreted
> metaphorically. I think that currently evolution is ahead with regards
> to the scientific evidence, but that the scientific evidence is
> sufficiently incomplete that it is too early to declare a winner.


Oh, really? Let's turn that sort of critique around. What is the
evidence to declare the Bible story even *remotely* likely to be correct?
How 'incomplete' is the Bible story, compared to the scientific view?

Or to put it bluntly: Why so rigorous a set of hurdles as regards
scientific evidence, while giving the Bible a free pass?

Re-engage your critical faculties, please. Your religion is making
you foolish...and surely a God who guided the evolution of
our brains wouldn't want it put to such shoddy use.


> Anyway, this does suggest to me that God may well be actively hiding
> the good evidence of his intelligent design.

Of course, an explanation like that explains *everything*..and
therefore *nothing*.


--

-S
"You know what love really is? It's like you've swallowed a great big
secret. A warm wonderful secret that nobody else knows about." - 'Blame it
on Rio'

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