Re: Science Disproves Evolution

On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 05:52:54 -0800, Pahu78 wrote :

For the last 150 years, the age of the Earth, as assumed by
evolutionists, has been doubling at roughly a rate of once every 15
years. In fact, since 1900 this age has multiplied by a factor of 100!

This post based on many errors and one deception.

First error : Science. There is no such thing as "Science" but sciences
or better scientific theories. A theory is not a belief, it is a model
that permit some predictions on the behaviour of some objects, it is
often based on a tentative underlying explanation of the origin of those
phenonomenon. There are many scientific theories, none of them being an
universal explanation of everything. Their scope is limited. And what
occurs at the limits of their explanative range is speculation for new
theories. They have been developped by people of very diverse origins and
belief. Sometimes some physicist or biologist will extrapolate what they
learn in their own field into some kind of philosophical theory of what
the world should be in their own views. But in thoses cases they don't
act as scientists, but as philosophical speculators. That is probably
what occurred to MM.Stanlay, Wyatt Jr, Whipple you cite in your posting,
if they are scientists.

Second error : Sciences disprove creation. Amazingly, sciences have very
few thing to tell about creation. Creation is outside of the scientific
theory scope. But sciences sometimes prove that other theories, or
speculations are incompatible with established theories. For example, the
litteral interpretation of the biblical creation seems very very unlikely
with regards to the current knowledge of nearly any science.
Sciences are about explaning how things transform from one state to
another, thus the biological evolution theory is nothing wicked or
amoral. And it has a very good explanative force in its range. It seems
that the current advances in cellular biology throw some new light on how
the evolution mecanism work. The evolution theory of today is not the one
Darwin wrote, it is much more subtle and is firmer grounded.

Third error : You ignore anything that contradict your belief. You never
give an answer to any well grounded objection you are presented. So you
will never be able to convince anybody except religious fanatics.

To resume : science has a whole does not exist. Scientific theories have
few or no opinion on creation. The biblical litteral interpretation is
contradicts too many distinct well grounded theories to be possible.

Now what you really want to prove is not that sciences disprove
evolution, but that the world is only 5000 years old. Why don't you say
it at the begining. All those cycles around the honey pot are ridiculous.
Because there are no need of complex theories to prove that the earth,
and the universe are much older than you pretend. Thousand of facts prove
it clearly, one example : antartic ice study, get informed and think.
What you want to prove has no sense, full stop.

Some reading. One of the hundred scientific theories that independently
disprove your beliefs.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/07/070705153019.htm
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Climate theories over-turned

The research results are the first direct proof that there was forest in
southern Greenland. Furthermore Willerslev found genetic traces of
insects such as butterflies, moths, flies and beetles. But when was that?
According to most scientific theories to date, all of southern Greenland
and most of the northern part were ice-free during the last interglacial
period 125,000 years ago, when the climate was 5 degrees warmer than the
interglacial period we currently live in.

This theory however, was not confirmed by Willerslev and co-workers
subsequent datings. He analysed the insects' mitochondria, which are
special genomes that change with time and like a clock can be used to
date the DNA. He also analysed their amino acids which also change over
time. Both datings showed that the insects were at least 450,000 years
old.

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