Re: Why There's No Design #146 - The Problem of Evil

DAVE wrote: """If we hold to atheism (survival of the fittest, macro
evolution,
ad nauseum...) then you shouldnt put down the Nazis for what they
attempted to do, that being, to have a 'superior' race of people
exist
while killing off the 'less' superior races (Jews and Christians).
BUT..you DO KNOW intrinsically that it was wrong what they did ;
ergo,
the hypocritical system of atheism and the proof that there ARE
absolute
moral laws which can only be given by an Absolute Moral Law Provider
(God)."""

I love it when the "Born Agains" like Dave throw back the nonsense of
the quack academic social theory concensus in the social sciences!
The whole idea that we are now undergoing enough evolution to explain
social phenmen---such as the progress of a society---is absurd and
there is no data to back up what social theorists claim! The only
social evolution and natural selection process going on that explains
anything is between RELIGIONS, not individuals! In world history,
religions have come and gone and the fittest religions have survived
the longest. All, however, eventually grow old and die. Even so,
they pass on to the next society and its religion the good things that
enabled it to survive so long. It is a process of natural selection
and works effectively to further the progress of the human species.

Thanks Dave . . .

charles, http://humanpurpose.simplenet.com







On Aug 4, 10:13 am, DaveInLakeVi...@xxxxxxxxx (Dave in Lake Villa)
wrote:
'Of course, evil is a problem for everyone, but only theists have to
address the issue of why a good god would even countenance the existence
of evil to begin with.
And it was to begin with. Evil was created in the beginning, so Bible
mythology tells us, and The Divinity himself created it according to
Isaiah 45:7.'

REPLY: God did NOT create EVil to begin with ; it came about as an act
of willful rebellion of Satan and his mass followers. Further, the
issue of Evil demonstrates that there must be a Being who is all Good ,
for, if there is something which we know is deficient then we must know
have an idea of what is less deficient and ultimately perfect concerning
behaviour . You wouldnt know a line was crooked unless you had some
idea what a straight line looked like. Same with Evil and Good ; you
know intrinsically that Hitler and BinLaden are Evil and you know that
Mother Theresa and Billy Graham are good. But if 'good' can be assigned
to both these people, then, there must be an originator of what is
absolutely good and perfect --- that is a Being with a personality and
is the First Cause . Just the same that human personalitys such as
abstract thought, moral oughtness, compassion, et al...must have a First
Cause as well. For the atheist, this First Cause has to be hydrogen gas
left over from the big bang (non personal materials) which is absolutely
silly . But it makes good rationale to believe it came from another
personal Being who is above Creation and who brought Creation into
being.

'The Nazis did nothing in comparison with what The Divinity hammered
down upon humanity and they are vilified while this evil divinity is
worshiped and glorified. Sic transit gloria dei'

REPLY: If we hold to atheism (survival of the fittest, macro evolution,
ad nauseum...) then you shouldnt put down the Nazis for what they
attempted to do, that being, to have a 'superior' race of people exist
while killing off the 'less' superior races (Jews and Christians).
BUT..you DO KNOW intrinsically that it was wrong what they did ; ergo,
the hypocritical system of atheism and the proof that there ARE absolute
moral laws which can only be given by an Absolute Moral Law Provider
(God).

'Yet nowhere in the Bible - this purported guidebook to a quality life
- is The Adversary actually held responsible. Neither is The Divnity.
Nope. It's humans all the way down!'

REPLY: Your posts are wrought with strawmen attackes and
misconceptions of the Bible. The Bible in fact declares that there will
come a time when justice will be metered out to all those who committed
acts of murder and who refused the light and knowledge that the Creator
gave about himself . IT is called Judgement Day when all wrongs are
finally made right...perfect justice , for, it would go against the
nature of God to not punish those who did wrong (which...happens to be
ALL of us when you think about it. For those who trusted in Gods plan
of forgiveness in Christs sacrifice in order to reconcile us back to
himself, there will be no judgement. And thats what every person needs
before they die. Dont wait...take God up on his only offer to get right
).


.

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