Re: Question for Creationists

An Wed, 24 May 2006 12:35:47 +0000, prabbit1 hat geschreibt:

robpar <robpar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Tue, 23 May 2006 16:32:42 +0000 (UTC), prabbit1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Tim K. <timkozz@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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An Sat, 20 May 2006 22:38:10 +0000, Tim K. hat geschreibt:


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horse & donkey r not the same kind cause they can not produce fertile
off spring wolf & dog r the same kind cause they can no suprise there
though cause dogs r just domesticated wolfs

A horse and a donkey are not the same "kind" because they can not
produce
fertile offspring. Dogs are just domesticated wolves.

What about bison and bovine?

In a earlier post I said that beefalos are sterile, then I looked it
up, and was wrong. Cattle and buffalo are different breeds but same
species.

Different species in spite of being able to breed.

Or the Buffalo was mislabeled. as to species.

bovine () adjective
1. Of, relating to, or resembling a ruminant mammal of the genus
Bos, such as an ox, cow, or buffalo.

This definition says "ressembling...a mammal of the genus Bos, such as
a...buffalo." I.e.

I found an interesting family tree made by analysis of mitochondrial DNA
and Y chromosome DNA from the all the species of . From the maternal DNA,
wisent are more closely related to ox (Bos taurus), but on the father side
bison and oxen aren't that closely related.

Mitochondrial DNA:

wisent ----------------+
ox ---+ +--+
+-----------+ |
zebu ---+ |
banteng -----------+ +---------+
gayal ---+ +---+ | |
+-------+ | | |
gaur ---+ +--+ |
yak --------+ | |
+------+ |
bison --------+ |
water buffalo ----------------------+
cape buffalo ----------------------+

Y Chromosome (buffalo can't interbreed so they aren't here):
each - is one mutation.

ox ---+
zebu -----+
banteng ----+
gayal -----+-+
yak -------+
bison ---+----+
wisent --+


But yet cattle and buffalo are considered to be different
species and yet they can breed and produce fertile offspring.

This isn't precisely true. All the F1 cross males are infertile.

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