Re: The logic of atheism

On Sun, 2 Apr 2006 16:38:38 +0000 (UTC), prabbit1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
wrote:

Christopher A. Lee <calee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sun, 2 Apr 2006 14:29:00 +0000 (UTC), prabbit1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
wrote:

No, it's logically impossible to do any of those things. How-ever, it's
illogical to even EXPECT a supposed god to do any of those things. An
omnipotent god shouldn't be expected to do the logically impossible.

Except that you are redefining the omni- prefix. It means an
unqualified "all".

No, I'm not redefining anything. If I said "I have all the marbles" you
wouldn't come back and say "no, you don't. You don't have a
cubical-spherical marble, do you?" When I claimed to have all the marbles, I
would (obviously) mean "all the marbles that exist" (possibly limiting that
to "all that exist a given space, etc.") Here, "all-powerful" means "having
all the power/abilities that (can) exist" and not some nosensical, illogical
power that someone thinks an omnipotent being should have when it's
impossible for ANY entity to have it.

There is a difference between "all the marbles" and "everything".

Ben just pointed out the paradoxes and impossibilities the unqualified
"all" introduces.

No, he just made up logic games.

No. Theists insist on the omniwahatever attributes. We're used to
their dishoinestly redifining omni- after the even to cop out of the
impossibilities. But I'm surprised when an atheist falls for that.

We're not the ones who insist on the omniwhatever properties. Why
should we back-pedal when the problems are pointed out?

No, you're just the ones who want to tack on MORE than what the word "all"
means.

In your dreams.
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  • Re: The logic of atheism
    ... illogical to even EXPECT a supposed god to do any of those things. ... omnipotent god shouldn't be expected to do the logically impossible. ... When I claimed to have all the marbles, ... impossibilities. ...
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  • Re: The logic of atheism
    ... Christopher A. Lee wrote: ... illogical to even EXPECT a supposed god to do any of those things. ... omnipotent god shouldn't be expected to do the logically impossible. ... When I claimed to have all the marbles, ...
    (talk.atheism)