Re: From a Truck Driving Pal
- From: NoName <noname@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 11:04:58 -0700
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 10:14:21 -0700, Old_Timer wrote:
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 10:54:00 -0500, High Miles <2Blues17@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Old_Timer wrote:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:34:52 -0500, High Miles <2Blues17@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Nantz wrote:
On Aug 30, 7:51 pm, High Miles <2Blue...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Ah but no.
I have a question for the entire 50 states. Like a lot of folks in this+++++++++++++
state, I have a job. I work, they pay me. I pay my
taxes and the government distributes my taxes as they see fit.
In order to get that paycheck, I am required to pass a random urine
test, which I have no problem with.
What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people
who don't have to pass a urine test.
Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check, because
I have to pass one to earn it for them?
Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on
their feet. I do, on the other hand, have a
problem with helping someone sit on their ass. Could you imagine how
much money the state would save if people
had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance check.
But, if they fail the test, and they have children to support, what do
you do then? If you cut them off you would be punishing the children.
Tough choice.
Nantz
You give them only healthy food, and if they sell it, like they often do
with food stamps, sterilize 'em and send 'em to jail for a year.
That might send the message.
D
Perhaps not everywhere in the USA but Food Stamps are just about
history now. They have been replaced by an electronic benefits card.
Two effects of this are that the family does not suffer the
embarrassment of being seen using Food Stamps and the fraudulent
selling of Food Stamp benefits has been greatly reduced.
BTW, D, there is no room at the jail for them.
Old_Timer
Then shoot 'em.
And use 'em for hog feed.
In various postings I believe that you have expressed a concern about
the erosion and of our civil rights, freedom and liberty.
Don't you see that your solution in regard to food stamps may be
construed by some as an infringement upon one or more of these areas.
Old_Timer
I see her comments of this nature to be mere hyperbole, playing
out of one of the roles she seems to enjoy "tough guy".
But then again she has made comments in the past about the need
to get rid of "useless" people, so it is hard to judge the
degree of her sincerity.
I think there is a middle ground between buying into every sob
story one hears or just saying, "shoot em".
I did volunteer social type work as well, and yes, there were
whiners who managed to discount any helpful suggestion. But I
also talked to many who were truly in need. And I was happy when
I could give information to help those truly in distress obtain
some modicum of help from the system. But it was not my job to
judge the accuracy of the situation they told me about, just to
give information on what the laws were on awarding of various
benefits.
I was particularly pleased when I could help seniors get needed
help. Many had worked very hard all their lives but at jobs
that did not enable them to accrue savings for their old age.
And they were living on a small amount of Social Security and
benefits such as Medicaid and Food Stamps made an enormous
improvement in their lives. The "system" can be difficult to
navigate and my job was to help them through it if indeed I
did find they qualified for the aid.
I had that volunteer job for 10 years and miss it -- have
found no comparable agency where I live now to replace it.
.
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