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On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 16:06:38 -0400, emily2@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:

On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 13:04:26 -0500, High Miles <2Blues17@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

emily2@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 12:27:45 -0400, Oldie69@xxxxxxxxx (Olly Mensch)
wrote:

Emily - I do agree with your much more mature and relaxed attitude. and
when I say "much more" - I can just see the posts coming in decrying
such an attitude!!!
NoName reminded me that, had the source been anti-jewish, with nasty
cracks about Jews,etc. I would have a different reaction and attitude.
N o race has been subject to more hatred and ridicule- and, yes, nasty
humor than the Jews. In fact, I often found myself - - tsk,tsk, -
participating in mocking the Hassidic Jews, (unfairly, to be sure) - and
it does make a huge difference as to who voices these put-downs, how and
when and why. Occasional sarcasm, rumor, and nasty references are part
of life. Almost any religion, any race, any group, any person has at
some time or other been subject to this "semi-nasty" attempt at humor.
I feel that the more mature reaction would be to yawn,smile, and
mutter:"what else is new?" - Provided the source is recognized NOT to be
a professional "hater" - as, for instance Al sharpton. Or - Jesse
Jackson (Hymie-town!!) and many others;(Ahmadinejad!!!) my reaction to
those would indeed be as suggested by NoName - but, in this case, and
others, depending on the source,etc., I merely yawn, and turn the next
page - or station. C'est la vie!!!
Olly

Thank you, Olly.

I agree that almost every group has been the *** of someone's attempt
at humor, and it is a bit easier to take coming from one of the group,
and usually far more amusing.

I think it's interesting that no group in this country, at least none
that I think of, has a cadre of people constantly in the pissed off
position, such as Jackson, Sharpton, et al, except for black people.
I wonder why that is, and I also wonder if it's really helpful to
black people.

It's not. It perpetuates the 'victim menatality' that leads to despair.

I understand how terribly black people were treated prior to the civil
rights movement in the `60s, and that there are still lingering
attitudes and problems, but I don't think the way to dispel those is
by having Jackson or Sharpton jumping up to decry something as silly
as Imus' comment.

Ah - but it wasn't silly.
It was racial and sexual and totally demeaning - since they were all
college students and not street walkers.
I honestly wish he had been beaten to a bloody pulp over the crack
and then everyone could just forget about it.

Obviously, this is something everyone has their own opinion of and no
one shows any signs of wavering.

And - black people are still treated badly in this country.
Especially in redneck states and by rednecks anywhere.
Some of those are bank officers who have the power to deny home
loans or even jobs to anyone they think of as - inferior.

We've had two black Secretaries of State, have a black candidate for
President, and any of us can quickly list a number of blacks who are
successes in various fields. They've come quite a long way from not
being able to ride on the front of the bus or drink from the same
water fountains as white people.

I don't know where people get away with denying jobs to black people.
You mean the EEOC is not doing its job?

As for red lining (is that supposed to be one word?) and using eminent
domain to wipe out "blighted" areas where the population is primarily
black, I believe those, and other injustices, to be the result of
government policies which enable to richer to become richer, rather
than the result of redneck attitudes. I think the destruction of the
poor black family and the incredibly high rates of illegitimacy among
blacks to be primarily the result of government welfare policies. I
could be wrong, but I think Jackson, Sharpton, et al would be of far
greater service to their constituencies if they focused on things like
that rather than policing the Imuses of the world.


Emily, you've said it very well. A problem arises when activists
expect attitudes to change overnight. Attitudes have changed
radically and still there are pockets of resistance, but we'll get
there.

Justine
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