Re: Choose Santa Claus or Jesus

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On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 17:07:15 -0400, "Nixon.D" <nixon.d@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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"Ken" <flakey714@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Apr 26, 10:46 pm, fvhkn...@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Which of the Christmas fairy tales is more believable. Santa Claus or
Jesus Christ?

I vote for Santa. At least he has some proof, where anyone with a red
suit can deliver gifts. Jesus on the other hand is a fraud and no
one can get crucified and supposedly rise from the dead. Jesus never
existed and never will. Santa lives on and every Christmas someone
plays the part.

In the category of fairy tails, you should add in the great pumpkin,
the easter bunny, the tooth fairy, Zeus, Thor, Apollo, fairy
godparents, Pan, and any afterlife
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You do not understand the requirement for "myths" that is a part of the
human psyche in order to provide a placid and peaceful and enjoyable
existence. Those that cannot understand are, sometimes, described as
"inhuman"; even asocial. It is probably the fault of something you were
exposed to in early childhood.
McDave
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Exposed to what? Religion, perhaps? I remember going to
catechism classes every Saturday for three hours for three
years and I believed everything that was taught. A couple of
years later, I believed none of it. Except some of the ethical
concepts in the New Testament that advised loving one's neighbor.
That still made good sense to me. I found the concept of sinners
burning in hell forever did not provide me with a placid and
peaceful and enjoyable existence. Especially when the sinners
were identified as religous sects other than the one I was
raised in. That took in a lot of my loved friends and even
close relatives.



Amazingly similar to my own experience!


It's a remarkably large club.

When education comes in the door, most of the time, religious slavery flies out. That is why so many of the bible thumpers are into home schooling etc.

If we're not very careful, the government may yet try to slip their god
back into classrooms. It's scary indeed to have that prospect again.

NO god has any business in government. I don't care what the
founding fathers might have said. We're a whole lot smarter now.



The founding fathers were not religious, no matter what certain people would try to make you believe. If you read what they actually did say, and actually did write, it is surprisingly against any form of organized religion taking precedence in this country. They saw what that had done to Europe and to England beforehand.

But of course, the fundies have to ignore that, or their arguments kind
of whither on the vine.

Total separation of church and state should cover any public entity that
receives state or federal funding. Most especially schools.
Religion belongs in the home or the individual's place of practice.
.

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