Re: Choose Santa Claus or Jesus



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On Apr 26, 10:46 pm, fvhkn...@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Which of the Christmas fairy tales is more believable. Santa Claus
or
Jesus Christ?

I vote for Santa. At least he has some proof, where anyone with a
red
suit can deliver gifts. Jesus on the other hand is a fraud and no
one can get crucified and supposedly rise from the dead. Jesus
never
existed and never will. Santa lives on and every Christmas someone
plays the part.

In the category of fairy tails, you should add in the great pumpkin,
the easter bunny, the tooth fairy, Zeus, Thor, Apollo, fairy
godparents, Pan, and any afterlife
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You do not understand the requirement for "myths" that is a part of
the
human psyche in order to provide a placid and peaceful and enjoyable
existence. Those that cannot understand are, sometimes, described
as
"inhuman"; even asocial. It is probably the fault of something you
were
exposed to in early childhood.
McDave
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Exposed to what? Religion, perhaps? I remember going to
catechism classes every Saturday for three hours for three
years and I believed everything that was taught. A couple of
years later, I believed none of it. Except some of the ethical
concepts in the New Testament that advised loving one's neighbor.
That still made good sense to me. I found the concept of sinners
burning in hell forever did not provide me with a placid and
peaceful and enjoyable existence. Especially when the sinners
were identified as religous sects other than the one I was
raised in. That took in a lot of my loved friends and even
close relatives.



Amazingly similar to my own experience!


It's a remarkably large club.

When education comes in the door, most of the time, religious slavery
flies out. That is why so many of the bible thumpers are into home
schooling etc.

If we're not very careful, the government may yet try to slip their god
back into classrooms. It's scary indeed to have that prospect again.

NO god has any business in government. I don't care what the
founding fathers might have said. We're a whole lot smarter now.



The founding fathers were not religious, no matter what certain people would
try to make you believe. If you read what they actually did say, and
actually did write, it is surprisingly against any form of organized
religion taking precedence in this country. They saw what that had done to
Europe and to England beforehand.

The founding fathers were adamant there should be no state
religion as in England where the Anglican church was the
official religion. Yet we have the Rev. James Dobson querying
Republican candidates for President on their degree of Christian
(read fundamentalist) orthodoxy.

Thomas Jefferson was interested in religion -- he was a deist,
not a Christian, but he did put together his own version of
the New Testament where he retained the teachings of Jesus
that were ethical content and removed the miraculous stuff.
You can find it on the net -- Google Jefferson Bible.

.



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