Re: Sandra Day O'Conner resigns



Alan Lichtenstein wrote:
> bob wrote:
> >
> > Alan Lichtenstein wrote:
> >
> >>
> > I wrote;
> >
> > (deleted, one of the most vicious and partisan set of misconceptions,
> > half truths and outright lies I've seen in a long time)
>
> Taanslation: I know that what was written is correct, however, I can't
> objectively look at it because I'm far too indoctrinated in reactionary
> beliefs, so I use the time-honored ego-defense mechanism of denial and
> dismissal.
>
Allen, the people like Crazy Dean, Teddy (Hic) Kennedy and Nasty
Pelosi, (allow me sarcasm) whom you sound like, don't believe that
crap. They are politicians, leaders as it were. They are well aware
that in order to "lead" they have to be out front. The way to be "out
front" is to adopt extreme positions...."There go my people, I have to
run out ahead...."

In most cases, after a day of such rhetoric, politicos of both sides
laugh about it and are friends. Not always, I remember once that
Leahy, on wanting to "backslap" with the VP, was invited to commit an
unnatural act upon hiself.

I am convinced that such rhetoric is the main reason Democrats are
losing so many elections. The people, most of them, just don't buy it,
and to the extent that the Michael Moores, et. al. are the salient
voices of the party, people are rejecting the message. Of course, the
lack of any constructive suggestions as to alternatives is a factor.

Your absolute conviction in the truth of the extreme views you espouse
is hard to believe. The phrase "useful idiots" comes to mind. Your
absolute belief in your own rectitude is equally disturbing. It was
Cromwell who said, "I beseech you in the bowells of Christ, consider
you might be mistaken."


> >>>When you are able to rationally discuss matters on a factual and
> >>>rational basis as opposed to "stupid" and "evil" get back to me.
> >>
> >>I recall that YOU were the one who answered MY post. Next time you
> >>start something, be around to finish it.
> >>
> >
> > There is no way to "finish" it.
>
> Indeed there is. Modify your erroneous beliefs.
>
You are the one with "beliefs". I'm the Agnostic here.

> You are not rational on the subject or
> > open to the slighest possiblility that you might be wrong on any of
> > your estreme opinions.
>
> The only comment I can say to the above is ROTFLMAO. YOU say reasonable
> people can disagree, implying that YOU'RE reasonable. You are the
> biggest ideologue I have seen; you are afflicted by the cult of
> personality. Such can hardly be termed as 'reasonable.' And I am open
> to any rational opposing points of view. YOU, however, have yet to post
> any. When you do, I'll consider them.
>
sigh

> And as far as your last comment about my not being open to the
> possibility of my being wrong, why just look in the mirror. You share
> the same afflicting, but in greater force. ( GRIN )
>
I have often admitted I am wrong. The last time was when Rita proved
that administration spokesmen had used the word "imminent" in reference
to Saddam's threat. I am very much aware that I could be wrong about
much of what I discuss on this ng. If my reservations about the
absolute "TRVTH" of your conviction that Bush is both "evil" and
"massively stupid" represent a "personality cult", so be it. Consider
for a moment. I do not suggest that there have been no mistakes nor
that there might have been better ways to react to muslim extreemism.
I do not contend that Bush is either a paragon of virtue nor that he is
always right. I strongly object to his stance on abortion and on stem
cell research, for instance. I DO object to irrational bloviation to
the effect that he is all that is evil or always wrong. Are you
incapable of seeing the difference????



> Have a nice day. I have nothing more to say to you. It would just be
> beating a dead horse.
>
Frustrating isn't it? LOL

bob

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