Re: Herman Cain rises, Rick Perry slides in new CBS News poll

On Thu, 06 Oct 2011 18:49:16 -0400, Josh <user@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 10/6/2011 5:57 PM, Emily wrote:
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 06:23:08 -0700 (PDT), Josh Rosenbluth
<jrosenbluth@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Oct 6, 8:36 am, Emily<em...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Thu, 06 Oct 2011 07:16:15 -0400, Josh<u...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 10/5/2011 11:32 PM, Olly Mensch wrote:
Emily- I agree with your feelings about building mosques- here -and also
regarding immigration limitations,etc. -BUT -I do feel this ticklish
topic has to be settled by our Supreme Court.
Olly

There is nothing for the Supreme Court to settle. Restricting mosque
building is an unequivocal violation of he First Amendment, and for good
reason. What Emily and Olly want is naked, shameful bigotry.

What I don't want is the Muslims taking over this country and
instituting their ridiculous sharia law and the rest of their seventh
century "culture". It won't happen in my lifetime but you're kidding
yourself if you think it can't happen.

You are still being a bigot if you broad-brush all Muslims as desiring
Sharia law and a seventh century culture (which you implcitly do if
you are adamant about no mosques). Some do for sure, but so do the
fundamentalists in most religions. Yes, there are a greater
percentage of such Muslims, but that doesn't change the analysis about
the majority who don't.

Also thankfully, the First Amendment also bars religious law
overtaking secular law. Let's keep both parts of the separation
between church and state: religion doesn't tell government what to
do, and government doesn't tell religion what to do (including whether
mosques can be built).

Sound good to you, Emily?

I don't think that's working very well. I would count DADT, DOMA, and
all the laws various states are passing to limit reproductive choice
as religion telling government what to do.

As far as Muslims and mosques are concerned, I'm just going to
continue to be a bigot because I don't think it would be possible to
change my mind about them.

I was hoping you could be shamed into re-examining your bigotry, but too
bad. At least you are honest about it.

It is a great burden to carry -- fear of Muslims taking over the U.S.
Some apparently enjoying entertaining that notion. No accounting for
for why some like to scare themselves without any substantial facts
to support their fears.
.

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