Re: Price of Solar Panels is dropping, becoming more and more affordable.



You never forgot that rectal tearing those hicks gave you when you
were in the sixth grade, did you Alzheimer?
On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 11:10:17 -0400, "GlennR@xxxxxxxxxxxx"
<Gator@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

leroy ??

you're about the most broke back, ignorant, stupid, anachronistic hillbilly
piece of *** here ain't yall
goober

your stupid,fat, gutless, hillbilly ass hasn't learned anything since the
3rd grade,

how about all you cross eyed, bow legged, loud mouth, worthless, brain
damaged examples of
rampant hillbilly incest and inbreeding shut those stupid mouths and stop
inflicting yourselves on humanity,

I gots an idea gomer, why yall don't go ahead on and take them shooting
irons and shoot
up your families,schools, and trailer parks, we know yall itching to do it,
so go ahead,
it'll leave us a lot fewer we have to execute later and it will give us some
fucking peace and quiet until then

start with that fat sow of a wife of yourn and them little piglets in the
back of yer trailer gomer,

yall can call it a mercy killing, put them out of their bitter,clinging
misery



<thuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Don't get your hopes up, Leroy. They will go the way Wind Farms are
going: becoming Enviromentally Hazardous. Windmills are disturbing
the airflow of the planet, and causing the Hole to enlarge, and more
carbon to get into the enviroment.
Solar panels are reflelcting heat and light back upwards, exacerbating
the problems.
And using plants for food the whole sale murder of innocent flora.
On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 07:05:55 -0700 (PDT), GLOBALIST
<free.tuneup@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

By CASSANDRA SWEET
The solar industry has been struggling this year against weak demand,
ample supply and sliding prices. Which means that for anyone thinking
about putting solar panels on their roof, there probably hasn't been a
better time.

The Journal Report
See the complete Energy report.
.All along the supply chain, prices have been falling, and could fall
further still. Silicon, a main ingredient in most panels, has been
selling for as little as half what it went for a year ago, while some
panels and installed systems can be had for 25% less, retailers and
installers say. Throw in a 30% rebate offered by the U.S. government,
plus rebates in California, New Jersey, New York and other states,
and, depending on where you live, you could be looking at $15,750 for
a system that would have cost nearly twice as much a year ago when the
federal rebate was much smaller.

"Solar is now affordable for people for whom it wasn't before," says
Jeff Wolfe, chief executive of groSolar, a solar-panel system
installer and distributor based in White River Junction, Vt. Mr. Wolfe
says his company has been installing rooftop residential solar systems
for three-quarters of the price it would have charged last year.

Slack Demand
Falling costs aren't the only reason. Lower government subsidies in
Spain, the No. 2 market for solar panels, have helped reduce demand
globally, and consumers and businesses are spending less amid the
world-wide recession. With inventories of solar panels brimming,
distributors and installers are much more willing to cut prices to
keep sales volume moving.

For large buyers, negotiating a good deal for solar panels has never
been easier. Installers who serve homeowners, though, are a fractured
market of primarily smaller businesses. Solar panels account for a
little more than a third of the total cost of a residential system, so
there's a limit to how low an installer can go for individual
customers. But bargains can still be had.

A group of San Francisco entrepreneurs called One Block Off the Grid
has helped homeowners organize buying groups of 100 or more in the
same city. The organization recently reached a deal in Los Angeles for
$6.05 a watt for each installed system, 17% less than a similar deal
it arranged last summer, which was below market at the time, says Dave
Llorens, co-founder and general manager.

Employees of Solar Forward install solar electric panels on a
residential rooftop in Santa Monica, Calif.
.Some homeowners could be paying as high as $14 a watt because they're
not aware of what others are paying, says Mr. Llorens, who previously
worked for an installer. He says he started his group in part to give
homeowners a way to compare prices. In early September, the group was
preparing to launch a Web-based application that would give homeowners
online solar-energy price estimates. Mr. Llorens says online quotes
and other marketing innovations are needed to serve homeowners and
boost residential demand.

"People appreciate transparency of pricing," he says.

The average wholesale price for solar panels charged to distributors
ranges from less than $2 a watt for large-scale customers to under
$2.50 a watt for smaller buyers, says Paula Mints, a solar-industry
analyst at Navigant Consulting in Palo Alto, Calif. She adds that
panel prices have been "reacting on almost a weekly basis." A year
ago, prices ranged from $3.50 to as much as $5 a watt. A typical
residential system produces 4 to 5 kilowatts, or 4,000 to 5,000 watts.

Apart from panel prices, the other costs of installing a solar system
generally haven't fallen. But prices for inverters, which change the
direct-current electricity from the panels into alternating current
for use by home appliances, other materials and labor could eventually
fall as technology improvements are made, says Sachu Constantine, a
senior analyst at the California Public Utilities Commission in San
Francisco.

Mr. Constantine adds that panel prices would be even lower now if it
weren't for the weak leverage of small residential solar installers
and long-term purchase contracts that many are locked into. Still,
government analysts expect residential solar-panel prices to fall
further over time.

"The oversupply is real and we expect to see an effect," Mr.
Constantine says.

Prices are being further pressured by Chinese solar panel
manufacturers, who are churning out much cheaper panels than those
made in Europe and the U.S. Stimulus funds distributed by the Chinese
government have kept many of the country's panel makers in business,
and they're likely to gain a foothold in the market, says Henning
Wicht, a solar-market analyst at iSuppli Corp., an electronics
research firm based in Frankfurt.

It could take a year or more to work through the global oversupply of
panels, Mr. Wicht says. "We know that prices will stay low and the
margins are close to zero for most makers," he says, adding that he
thinks an exception is First Solar Inc., a Tempe, Ariz.-based thin-
film solar-panel maker that has managed to cut its manufacturing
costs.

Mr. Wicht estimates U.S. retail solar-panel prices have declined about
10% on average from a year ago, due to a lag between wholesale and
retail price moves and a lack of prompt retail pricing data. But
retail prices likely will keep falling as wholesale prices stay low
amid the global oversupply, he says.

In the meantime, homeowners looking for a deal can turn to online
wholesalers like Wholesale Solar, a small family-owned company in Mt.
Shasta, Calif., that designs plug-and-play solar systems. Wholesale
Solar's business is up by more than half this year, says owner Ellen
Coleman.

Convenience Factor
"As prices come down, the only thing that's going to hold people back
from putting solar on their own homes is how easy or difficult it is
to set it up," she says. Wholesale Solar designs and builds the
system, then ships it to the customer, who hires an electrical
contractor to install it. Because the system is already built, the
customer saves on labor and overhead costs, Ms. Coleman says.

Some companies also install and own residential rooftop solar panels,
then sell the electricity to the homeowner in a long-term contract.
SolarCity of Foster City, Calif., and SunRun Inc. of San Francisco
have been providing such services for a few years. Solar-panel maker
SunPower Corp. of San Jose, Calif., offers leasing options, loans and
other financing help.

--Ms. Sweet is a reporter for Dow Jones Newswires in San Francisco.
She can be reached at cassandra.sweet@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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