Re: More Or Less Freedom



<jim@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:9pv355htjjd06tb4p0jahs7jkc0v5opp61@xxxxxxxxxx
On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 05:40:54 -0700 (PDT), mg <mgkelson@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On Jul 5, 12:28 pm, j...@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:04:31 -0500, Chesters <c.max.we...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

>mg wrote:
>> On Jul 4, 12:47 pm, "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> wrote:
>>> On this fourth of July, do we have more freedom than we had the last >>> fourth
>>> of July, or less freedom?

>> We have less freedom since the Homeland Security Act of 2002 was
>> passed.

>Exactly what freedom did you have before that you don't have now?

With plans in the making in Congress, we will soon not even have
freedom to sell a house without government approval, be free to pick
the color of our roof, be differentiated on who is automatically
considered a victim or agressor on hate crimes and loads of other
restrictions in the name of climate control, health reform, hate
speech legislation.

Attorney General says whites can't be a victim as there is no history
of discrimation. Tell that to the white kid beat to death in Crofton
Maryland recently, the white kid pounded into the ground in Norfolk by
a gang of blacks, or the white woman on a bus in Maryland beat to a
pulp by black teens.

Gonna have a whole new definition of freedom with government there to
'assist'. Assist who?

It's outrageous that whites aren't protected by hate crime laws.

So, tell Obama and Holder. I am just reflecting what Holder has said
and done since coming to office.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9mrenI9EuQ&feature=related

Just watch what Holder says in response to questions. I know you will
respond that the sponsor of the video are racists, blah blah blah. Of
course, ignoring facts is pretty common in your responses.

Holder says only protected groups need protection of this legislation.

I notice none of you liberals ever respond on point to the incredibly
violent videotapes of blacks beating the shit out of whites. Or the
kid killed in Crofton. Naaaaa. Mute as a stump as the only really
bad people are white males. Christians are also really nasty and of
course conservatives are to be controlled by law eh?



That is what YOU say, not what WE say. Of course there is black on white crime! It is just as despicable as the other way around!

You know, this reminds me of the Indian wars. Depending on who you are getting your information from, either side can be seen as "the bad guy". I read "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee" and was horrified beyond words at some of the awful treatment each side visited upon the other. In many cases the Indians had their various cultures and ways of dealing with rivalries and opposition. We came in and introduced a whole lot of newer ways of dealing with those perceived to be our "enemies" and in the process, should it surprise anyone that the lesson was learned too well?

Where does it end? When people are descended from those who have been enslaved, it is all too easy to blame any white person for whatever disappointment or aggressive urges they feel on that day.

When you have been told that simply being white makes you superior, how can you learn to treat a black person with the same common decency that you would afford to another white person?

It is important to transcend the racial labels and see hatred and violence as simply hatred and violence, and that they are equally evil no matter who it is doing it.

--

Evelyn

"Even as a mother protects with her life her only child, So with a boundless heart let one cherish all living beings." --Sutta Nipata 1.8

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